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NO:862_82
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Dear ¤Eµ¥¥Í:
I run out of the appropriate adjectives to describe your effort on debunking this statehood nonsense.
Just out of curiosity I typed in and clicked the search button. There were so many articles on this topics that I lost my interest very rapidly. However, I do remember that the US Senate still does not come to it since 1998. It is interesting that Puerto Rico has been a special territory of USA for about one century and the statehood has been around for many years without a definite date of success--though it does have some kind of representation in the house (non-voting representative!)
Another curious case is Philippines, which used to be a colony of US. I have not heard of any Philippino talking about becoming a state of the US! Perhaps I am too ignorant (or hopefully, innocent), I am puzzled by this, too.
I read the following <<µ¥§Ú­Ì²Ö¿n¤F¨¬°÷ªº¸ê·½§Ú­Ì´N·|Åý¥Á²³¶i¤@¨B¤F¸Ñ«Ø¦{ªº¥i¦æ©Ê>> in the post by you-know-who. I am wondering how the club will go about the important task of accumulating sufficient resources! Perhaps it will be like buying membership card of certain golf course! Or perhaps as the streetwise Barnum said that there are always ....

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willshaw ¡@©ó¡@2003/05/17 10:51
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In an interview, Michael M.C. Lai, a University of Southern California expert on the SARS microbe, the coronavirus, and a leader of the WHO effort to study the disease, said the organizations failure to dispatch a team to the island in mid-March, when Taiwan requested help, created the conditions for the islands current outbreak.

Had the WHO sent in experts and resources to help plot the strategy early, the recent outbreak in Taiwan could have been prevented, said Lai. It is one thing for WHO not daring to offend China, which I can understand. However, WHO has abdicated its own mission by ignoring Taiwan as if Taiwans SARS outbreak did not matter to the worlds overall strategy of containing the disease. It is time for WHO to include Taiwan as part of this strategy.

China has labored for years to keep Taiwan out of WHO, a United Nations agency. Taiwan reported its first SARS case in mid-March. It requested WHO assistance then. But WHO waited until early May to dispatch a team because, WHO sources said, China had not agreed.

Taiwans president, Chen Shui-bian, also criticized Beijings attitude. If the Peoples Republic of China is truly concerned about Taiwan and the spread of the epidemic here, it should effectively show that concern by stopping opposition to Taiwans participation in the WHO as an observer, a presidential office statement said.

David L. Heymann, director of the communicable diseases program at WHO, denied that Taiwan had been neglected, noting that a team from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in the United States arrived on the island in March.

That team has been working there since, with replacements coming and going, and WHO reinforced that with a team from headquarters just recently, Heymann said in Geneva. So . . . we dont believe that Taiwan has suffered by not being a member of the World Health Organization, because weve been able to provide the technical assistance that they need.
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willshaw ¡@©ó¡@2003/05/17 10:57
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Another curious case is Philippines, which used to be a colony of US. I have not heard of any Philippino talking about becoming a state of the US! Perhaps I am too ignorant (or hopefully, innocent), I am puzzled by this, too.
I read the following <<µ¥§Ú­Ì²Ö¿n¤F¨¬°÷ªº¸ê·½§Ú­Ì´N·|Åý¥Á²³¶i¤@¨B¤F¸Ñ«Ø¦{ªº¥i¦æ©Ê>> in the post by you-know-who. I am wondering how the club will go about the important task of accumulating sufficient resources! Perhaps it will be like buying membership card of certain golf course! Or perhaps as the streetwise Barnum said that there are always ....
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Dear ¤Eµ¥¥Í:
There is a sucker born every minute.-----(allegedly by) PT Barnum
In my previous post I alluded to PT Barnums saying. I was not sure of the exact wording then. Now it is shown above in full. How true it is! However, someone did some research and concluded that Barnum never did say it. ¡@I would not say the whole thing is a scam yet. After all, so far I did not read any solicitation on the part of the club.

In my previous post there are some words missing in the second paragraph. The first sentence should read, (Just out of curiosity I typed in PUERTO RICO, STATEHOOD and clicked the search button.)


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You are telling me that is good enough to stop the chinese aggression. There is no need of
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military action between two parties. I believe Hsiung Fen is real and the so-called lethal weapon.
I also believe they make a great threat to the chinese naval operations. But I dont believe they
are the main and only reason that make the balance. There must be something else.
War alcoholic or military idiot? Personally, I prefer the latter. Even I am either one of them.

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NO:862_128
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NO:862_129
willshaw ¡@©ó¡@2003/05/24 08:02
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Agree again and our president said he would do everything he could to help Taiwan....

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willshaw ¡@©ó¡@2003/05/24 08:23
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«í·R¥x ¡@©ó¡@2003/05/24 08:39
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NO:862_133
SJCA ¡@©ó¡@2003/05/24 08:43
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I still trust all of us are discussing one possibility of the future.
It is nothing to do with ¡A²n¡A or ¡A¤£²n¡A.

Mr. Luke-Skywalke, please make peace with Mr. Wilshaw!
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Just take it as an apology, for all Taiwanese sake!

Like it or not, you guys have to stick together or you all are going be slaughtered.
Stop killing each other!


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>>>Like it or not, you guys have to stick together or you all are going be slaughtered.
>>>Stop killing each other!

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NO:862_140
SJCA ¡@©ó¡@2003/05/24 12:15
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>>>You really think so? Want to give a shot?

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No problem! It is my turn.


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NO:862_143
SJCA ¡@©ó¡@2003/05/24 12:52
Re:¥xÆW«Ø¦{¹B°Ê²Õ´ªº¥D±i¡]10¡^

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Challenge? It is not even a close match for either US or Japan.

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How you are going to do that?

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Ha! Ha! I bet that will be using your Hsiung Fen and the so-called lethal weapon. Dont tell
me they are excluded for your independent course only.

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Just check the crisis in Taiwan Strait back to 1996.

Lets begin with diplomatic first. We dont say À~±o§¾ºu§¿¬yªº¥s¯R¥s®Q, and we dont call peopole
¥Õ·ö just like that.

>>­n¡u Stop killing each other ¡v¨ä¹ê«Ü²³æ¡A¥u­n¥ô¾Ì«Ø¦{¬£³æ¤è­±ªº¡u slaughter ¡v«Ø°ê¬£¡A«Ø°ê¬£³£¤£¥i¥H¦^¼Lªº¨Ä¨Ä¨ü¦º¡A³o¼Ë´N¤£¬O¡u killing each other ¡v¤F¡C

I wont recommand it either. As matter of fact, you should defend each others right. Remember that there are so few of you facing those chinese.



NO:862_144
SJCA ¡@©ó¡@2003/05/24 13:24
Re:¥xÆW«Ø¦{¹B°Ê²Õ´ªº¥D±i¡]10¡^

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I dont think anyone here can represent the US government in this forum.
Neither anyone can represent anyone here. But I know can speak for myself.
I hope that Taiwan will be a part of the Union.

Imperialism? Of course not, just like you said: it is based on ¥xÆWÃö«Yªk.
The final resolution of Taiwan future should be accepted by Taiwanese
people (no matter what it will be) and the decision is yours.


NO:862_145
SJCA ¡@©ó¡@2003/05/24 13:44
Re:¥xÆW«Ø¦{¹B°Ê²Õ´ªº¥D±i¡]10¡^

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I dont think that is what «Ø¦{¬£ meant. As I said, nobody can speak for nobody.

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I dont think its so easy just like that. By the way, those chinese have been trying to do that
(¬D¼·¥x¬ü¤§¶¡ªº±¡·P) for the last 20 years. Still, its not very successful.


NO:862_146
SJCA ¡@©ó¡@2003/05/24 13:48
Re:¥xÆW«Ø¦{¹B°Ê²Õ´ªº¥D±i¡]10¡^

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Bravo!


NO:862_147
SJCA ¡@©ó¡@2003/05/24 13:52
Re:¥xÆW«Ø¦{¹B°Ê²Õ´ªº¥D±i¡]10¡^

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You missed one little country named China.


NO:862_148
SJCA ¡@©ó¡@2003/05/24 14:03
Re:¥xÆW«Ø¦{¹B°Ê²Õ´ªº¥D±i¡]10¡^

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Bravo! But can we just change it a little bit? like

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NO:862_150
SJCA ¡@©ó¡@2003/05/24 14:21
Re:¥xÆW«Ø¦{¹B°Ê²Õ´ªº¥D±i¡]10¡^

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Nobody can give up Taiwan, nor give in. Only you folk can.

NO:862_151
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Re:¥xÆW«Ø¦{¹B°Ê²Õ´ªº¥D±i¡]10¡^

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>> Challenge? It is not even a close match for either US or Japan.

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>>>How you are going to do that?

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>> Ha! Ha! I bet that will be using your Hsiung Fen and the so-called lethal weapon. Dont tell
>>me they are excluded for your independent course only.

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>>>Just check the crisis in Taiwan Strait back to 1996.

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>>>Lets begin with diplomatic first. We dont say À~±o§¾ºu§¿¬yªº¥s¯R¥s®Q, and we dont call peopole
>>>¥Õ·ö just like that.

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>>>I wont recommand it either. As matter of fact, you should defend each others right. Remember that there are so few of you facing those chinese.

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NO:862_152
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>>>Bravo! But can we just change it a little bit? like

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