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NO:976_30
Duronglee ¡@©ó¡@2002/08/29 00:30
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NO:976_31
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NO:976_32
Poetic ¡@©ó¡@2002/08/29 05:22
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NO:976_33
Poetic ¡@©ó¡@2002/08/29 05:42
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NO:976_34
Taipei Student ¡@©ó¡@2002/08/29 07:00
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NO:976_35
Taipei Student ¡@©ó¡@2002/08/29 07:35
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NO:976_36
Duronglee ¡@©ó¡@2002/08/29 08:21
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NO:976_37
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Duronglee ¡@©ó¡@2002/08/30 00:03
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Interesting. Why should I need anyones appreciation? I was not talking about international relationship but interpersonal. Chinese are also human beings, right? Did you mean ALL Chinese are irrational? This is not a truth that I can accept.

The following thread of articles gave me some hope. They may give you some hope too.

http://www.danielviolin.com/cgi-bin/GBbbs2/GBbbs2.cgi?mode=res&resno;=817


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Duronglee ¡@©ó¡@2002/08/30 00:57
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Duronglee ¡@©ó¡@2002/08/30 00:03
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Interesting. Why should I need anyones appreciation?

But it was you who said,«u¡A¯u¬OÁV¿|... ³o­Óª©¤W¤w¸g¨S¦³·N·|¯à¤O¥¿±`ªº¤H¤F¶Ü¡H and then added,¯u¬O¶Ë¸£µ¬¡C
Now you are telling everybody that you do not need others appreciation. Is this not some kind of contradiction?
I suggest you do not use ¥x¡B¤¤¤G°ê¤H¥Á to refer to interpersonal relationship.If the title of this thread is about interpersonal relationship as you now claimed.


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hsiencchang ¡@©ó¡@2002/08/30 07:56
Re:µL½×²Î¿W¡A¥x¡B¤¤¤G°ê¤H¥Á¤Å®¦Â_¸qµ´

Duronglee:

I have read what you said in this topic, and, well, I have some agreements and disagreements. But I would like to say that I am generally in agreement with your position regarding the relationship between mainland Chinese and Taiwanese.

I do agree that the people, regardless of whatever happens, should try to stay friendly toward each other. Mainland China and Taiwan should at least start from being friends. I felt that much of the animosity across the Taiwan strait is simply unnecessary. The cross strait relationship today, as we all know, is far from being satisfactory. And, as we can all see from the language used in this bbs...there is a lot of anger and hatred between mainland Chinese and Taiwanese. I absolutely agree with you that we should avoid incurring more blind ignorance toward each other and I would like to show my support toward your position on this point.

I have to say that I disagree with much of the characterization of mainland Chinese in this bbs. It is just really difficult for me to accept the notion that, out of all the people and all the nations in the world, mainland China just happened to be the collection of all evil and ignorance, without even one person capable of any intelligence, kindness and goodwill.

I firmly believe that, if you expect other people to behave a particular way and treat them according to your expectations, they will become what you want them to be...if you demonstrate compassion and understanding toward another, he will be your friend...even the ¡yevil, ignorant, dirty mainland Chinese.¡z


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hsiencchang ¡@©ó¡@2002/08/30 07:58
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Something else for your consideration:

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Duronglee ¡@©ó¡@2002/08/30 08:32
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> mainland China just happened to be the collection of all evil and ignorance, without even one person capable of any intelligence, kindness and goodwill.

Hsien, are you sure that is what I ever said?


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hsiencchang ¡@©ó¡@2002/08/30 08:37
Re:µL½×²Î¿W¡A¥x¡B¤¤¤G°ê¤H¥Á¤Å®¦Â_¸qµ´

Of course not. I meant to say that many other people in this bbs seem to think so.

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Duronglee ¡@©ó¡@2002/08/30 08:47
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Hsien, I dont want to talk too much about the relationship between Taiwan and China in this thread. The original opinion of mine is so simple that its kinda difficult to understand why some others put it way too complicated. Just like what you said, much of the animosity across the Taiwan strait is simply unnecessary. You got the point.

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Thinker ¡@©ó¡@2002/08/30 08:48
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TO: Duronglee

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It is all very nice in the sky (as pie in the sky!). The question is: your opponent is no idiot, nor blind. Previously someone mentioned about the story of Dong-Guo Sian Shen and the wolf. I would like to stress again the moral of that story that one be wary of what you are dealing with before you embrace it.

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Duronglee:
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this is exactly what I tried to convey to you from the beginning. I am glad that this is different from your original ®¦¸q thesis. Another English saying for this is Requite like for like.
You know that Mr. Wang Yong Ching has been known for his savy business sense. I dare not say that I am as smart as he is. See what he end up in trying to play the ®¦¸q card with the Chinese! I wonder you are smarter than him along with his advisors.

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By the way, the only way i know of in dealing with the rabid wolf is a big stick or better still a loaded rifle, though it may not be very ecological. Any one attempting to sweet talk the rabid wolf into a house pet is an idiot in my mind.

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Echo ¡@©ó¡@2002/09/01 03:23
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