偶而,就會有一兩位喜歡思考的網友,擔心與媒體對抗是獨派一言堂,偏袒民進黨.現在應該可以放心了吧?從林毅夫風波就可看出,此地有不少朋友,辱罵起阿扁,比泛藍軍還凶!

林毅夫風波中,可以體會到(1)媒體很不用功,經常以訛傳訛;(2)我們還是被媒體牽著鼻子走!某媒體一說營長自殺,大家爭相報導,大家就恨林毅夫入骨.事實是營長還活生生!那也不成,繪聲繪影地說他帶走了機密;結果,林毅夫一一否認,國防部也未證實.你我真的知道真相嗎?看來,與媒體對抗必須更加把勁!

扁政府最後做出的決定,不是很合情合理合法嗎?林毅夫風波使朝野合作,再度將中國視為敵人;連戰都發言支持;宋楚瑜竟然喊出敵我意識,扁政府這樣做不是很成功嗎?可笑的是,宋楚瑜又批政府遲疑,還說扁政府處理華航空難,像是賭樂透!他的立場倒底是???他在說什麼瞎話?,

說阿扁是牆頭草,而中國時報正極力拉攏阿扁.這可能是事實.我們該怎麼辦?大罵阿扁變節,說他無能;他強調主權,我們無動於衷;他要江澤民過來喝茶,我們就如坐針氈.拚命將他推過去,泥人也有三分性,一拉一推,他不往那邊倒也困難!這樣子對嗎?有那麼一天,他真倒過去了,咱們再沾沾自喜;你看,我說得沒錯吧?他確是壞東西!為什麼我們不努力將中國時報拉過來將阿扁及民進黨拉回來?

台灣是民主政治,阿扁的銜頭是中華民國總統,而社會的主流民意是維持現狀.要建立台灣共和國,只有靠自己努力,將建立台灣共和國發展成主流民意,不能期待阿扁去更改國號.他沒有權力,也沒有能力那樣做!對不起,台灣人選出的總統可不是獨裁者.

台灣派在這邊吵吵鬧鬧;台聯在跟民進黨發脾氣;民進黨連個邱彰都開除不了;國親兩黨,一聲不響地,將坑錢法案兩岸法案,一件件地通過,將台灣一步步地送給中國.統派在竊笑,在見縫插針,台灣派吵得更興致勃勃!李前總統只好長嘆:我真是老了.

yl　於　2002/06/01 19:24
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民進黨連個邱彰都開除不了
then one should ask what kind of a party it is, and what kind of party leadership they are.
一拉一推,他不往那邊倒也困難! If it is indeed so, then the Taiwanese people are in deep trouble. After fifty some years of gestation for a Taiwan nation, it produces a midget if that does happen.
扁政府最後做出的決定,不是很合情合理合法嗎? Yes, after so many embarrassing and unprincipled public utterances of the part of some leading figures of the administration and the DPP party, it finally came up a reasonable and defensible decision. One can only conclude that it migth do much worse but for the searing criticisms in forums in the 台灣派 circle.

TR　於　2002/06/01 19:25
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連戰：國民黨支持政府處理林毅夫　但不要變來變去

國民黨主席連戰1日表示，國民黨支持政府在法律上處理林毅夫案的態度，他認為政府一定要追究林毅夫叛逃的事實。 連戰說，國民黨支持政府在法律上對林毅夫案處理的態度，但也希望政府不要變來變去，連戰說：「這很重要」。

連戰說，政府一方面要人道考量，另一方面也要還大家公道。

連戰上午在台北市第二殯儀館景仰廳，參加華航空難事件罹難者法會。連戰致祭後表示，基於人道考量可以讓林毅夫回來，但國家政府也要有自己的法律。

2002/06/01 11:58 ettoday 台北訊

這次連戰的言論比較冷靜智慧些

TR　於　2002/06/01 19:38
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親民黨全代會　宋楚瑜：民進黨讓台灣惡夢成真

李毅夫和中國飛彈瞄準台灣畫下等號,這是什麼跳躍式談話???

宋楚瑜談林毅夫：政府不能只看人道　罔顧社會公道

2002/05/31 18:41 記者林獻堂、葉素萍／台北報導

李毅夫叛逃時,請問宋主席你在哪個執政黨高官???
人道與社會公道有衝突嗎???

鍾榮吉：國親可在選前一年　共推正副總統人選

2002/06/01 12:54 記者葉素萍／台北報導

親民黨未來將擴大建設成一開放平台，籌組專業服務團隊和治國團隊
呵呵,已經開始治國團隊了,好快的手腳!!!
利用李毅夫先羞辱執政黨,再攻削減台灣勢力的法案,再.....一件件實現大中華的美夢......不乾不淨.

TR　於　2002/06/01 19:40
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三通／王拓：泛藍軍掐政府脖子　向台商和中國示好

民進黨立院黨團幹事長王拓1日強調，泛藍軍利用席次優勢強迫三通是掐著政府脖子。他認為，兩岸正處敵對政府狀態，片面立法對實質三通無益，他質疑泛藍軍作法是為了向台商和中國示好。他表示，三通問題牽涉繁雜，民進黨團將發布甲級動員令因應。... (詳全文)

KSC　於　2002/06/01 23:14
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想想,假使吳淑珍陳致中等,誤入此地,看到某些人對阿扁的建言,看到五十幾歲的親人,除了被泛藍及老共責罵外,還被台灣派當作小孩子,訓來訓去,不知道會有何感受?要當台灣派可真不容易了.

embarrassing and unprincipled public utterances of the part of some leading figures of the administration and the DPP party??? What are they? By whom?
a midget???

恆愛台　於　2002/06/02 04:59
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[ A王神明 ]的絕活.....舉一個錯誤的假設及起頭,再據此反覆推理,達到其欲求的目的!

目前旗下學徒眾多!如:拿著[人民日報]批台獨的不是等招式...大家都瞭解了吧?

yl　於　2002/06/02 06:38
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KSC 　於　2002/06/01 23:14
You asked by whom. Please go back to check what Mr. You Si Kun, Mr. Chen Ding Nan, Mr, Tsai Tong Rong, and etc said or wrote in the newspaper when the news first broke (you can get them in this forum). As far as I know Mr. Tsai still maintains his points (and so he wrote) even now. Mr. Chen did make a U-turn about the interpretation of statutory limit. Mr. You did clam up after the initial inappropriate utterance. The magistrate of I-Lan county, Mr. Liu shou Cheng, and Miss Chen Chu......I am too ashame to type on about those un-principled utterance. Thank goodness there is Mr. Hsu Rui-Feng to write an anticle in the forum of Liberty Times to clarify the issue of the infamous black list of the KMT government and Mr. Lin Yi-Fus betrayal.
Was not the early action on the part of the administration lacking in backbones? This is why I used the word midget. I expected our Taiwanese government would be principled and mature. I am disappointed in this incident. I still hope, though, that the DPP will learn something from this and gain some political wisdom in the process. I am not placing the whole blame on A-Bian. But he is the head of the government, isnt he? I remember the Irangate in the USA, the concept of plausible deniability was very prominent. I think A-Bian should consider this.

KSC　於　2002/06/02 09:55
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yl, First of all, thank you for your clarification. Nevertheless, I am sorry to say you are incorrect in your interpretation.

If you read the newspapers carefully, when the news was first leaked out, many legislators from all four parties including KMT, PFP and TSU all said the same thing, ie, we should let Lin I-fu back on the humanity ground. It was only after 1-2 days, pushing by the peoples reactions, whipping up by incorrect information, many of them started changing their position. Further, you seem to confuse the DPP adminstration with the DPP legislators.In fact, if you take a poll of DPP legislators on the Lin case today, I bet the overwhelming majority of them will be in line with your personal view! So, if judging from DPP legislators opinions, how can you say DPPs utterance is in-appropriate? Now, you may say:No, I mean the executive branchs officials. OK, let us examine them then; Did Yu ever say anything other than we should consider the humanity? DO Defense, DO Mainland, and Attorny General Office never officially took a decision until Friday afternoon! (maybe this is why you complain their hesitation?) But should any of them jump out before the consultation between them is complete and declare to the press its own view? So, what are in-appropriate? Finally, you mistaked the role of I-lan countys officials with the central governments one. Elected officials from I-lan county, no matter which party they belong, need to take a softer role. That is simply the political reality! It has nothing to do the ideology. I think you can appreciate that.

In short, despite of all the hypes, in my opinion the DPP administration under Yu Shi-Kun made the right decision in accordance with the right time frame. The ball is back to Lin himself!

I suggest that you should focus my main point of this article: 國親兩黨,一聲不響地,將坑錢法案兩岸法案,一件件地通過,將台灣一步步地送給中國.統派在竊笑,在見縫插針,台灣派吵得更興致勃勃!李前總統只好長嘆:我真是老了. Now, what are we going to do with the upcoming challenge? They want to pass 兩岸法案 into law this week!

yl　於　2002/06/02 11:20
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I suggest that you should focus my main point of this article: 國親兩黨,一聲不響地,將坑錢法案兩岸法案,一件件地通過,將台灣一步步地送給中國.統派在竊笑,在見縫插針,台灣派吵得更興致勃勃!李前總統只好長嘆:我真是老了. Now, what are we going to do with the upcoming challenge? They want to pass 兩岸法案 into law this week!

I can appreciate your point. But I still would insist that the administration did something wrong in the early days of this incident. Of course you and I can say we should consider the case on the ground of humanity. But the officials (no matter they are in the executive or the legislative branches) should shoot off their aXXes at will. You should ask why they got themselves in the early bind in the first place. Yes, they finally came to to right decision after the uproar. It is, however, they and they alone are responsible for any crevices (縫) for the pan-Blue to take advantage of. I suggest you re-read what Mr. Chen Ding Nan and Mr. You Si Kung said at first.
I did not blame the whole party of DPP, I did blame it on some leading figures in their un-principledness or lack of backbone. Please read carefully what others wrote. The article by Dr. Su Yi Ren in the Liberty Times forum will answer a lot of your challenge to the Taiwanese camp, I guess.

yl　於　2002/06/02 11:41
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Correction:
In the previous post of mine, the sentence But the officials (no matter they are in the executive or the legislative branches) should shoot off their aXXes at will should read as But the officials (no matter they are in the executive or the legislative branches) should NOT shoot off their aXXes at will.

PS: I think the last few posts in the thread that caused you (KSC) to initiate this thread may be of help to you in clarifying some of your questions. Especially the one by Ba Chu Guang Nien. I do agree with you though the opening of that thread was too sensational and without much substantiation--that is, it jumps the gun in accusing A-Bian in collusion with the China Times to concoct that issue. I have had my suspicion, but I would not go that far to accuse A-Bian without the smoking gun.

KSC　於　2002/06/02 16:16
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台灣面臨一大考驗,國親二黨欲強行通過三通條款!

真是賣國何患無辭。聽聽章孝嚴怎麼說:章孝嚴表示，最近陳水扁總統接受國際媒體專訪刻意強調台灣主權的談話，以及島內推動「台灣正名運動」，已經對中共造成嚴重刺激。他認為通過三通條款,是保持過去國民黨執政時所謂「建設性的模糊」是三通談判時最聰明，也是對我最有利的做法. 至於兩岸未來實質的三通談判。章孝嚴表示，屆時我方是否可以務實的回應中共所提「一個中國」原則及追認「九二共識」，將會是兩岸三通談判成功與否的關鍵。 也就是說台灣必須接受「一個中國」,好一個務實的回應!

奇怪,有那麼多國親二黨立委認為林毅夫叛國,卻又逼迫政府限期三通,接受敵國!