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This is what is submarines are for !!
Two or three submarines equipped with harpoons patroling the water surrounding there islets or atolls would have make PLA think twice before embarking their invasion.

One or two harpoons would have damaged severely or even sink a medium size
transport with hundreds of soldiers on board.

One MK-42 torpedo hit whould have sunk any transport with all hands on board becoming sharks gourmet dinner.



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Armstrong bro,

That is the best strategy. And I think the Collins will be the best fit for such kind of mission.

Just like you had mentioned, those subs can serve as an effective deterence aginst PLAs amphous attack. Even in case when this islet fallen in PLAs hands, those sub can serve as blockading force against PLAs supply ship.

Since PLAs action to invade Tai-Pin islet is mostly political oriented, blocakading the fallen islet will be another counter-strike politically.



jj ¡@©ó¡@2002/01/21 17:44
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I agree with you both. Good points.



Armstrong ¡@©ó¡@2002/01/21 17:54
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Happy New Year!!

I have always thought that (I have posted here many times :)
a decisive naval engagement between us and PLA maybe in the south china
sea.
Ouside the range of their land-base fighters, with our Kidd, Perry, Spruance and
Burke, we will kick their south china sea fleets ass so hard that they wont
dare to venture out of their homeports ever again.

Of course, with the addition of Collins or Upholder or even U209, it is better
still !!

Man, just look at all these ships named after these great admirals.

This year marks the twentienth anniversary of the Falklands war.
I have always admired the Royal Navy for their perseverance, professionalism
and courage. Embarking an amphibious invasion 8000 miles away during the harsh south atlantic winter....

Id be glad if our sailors are half as good as these british boys. Then
these islets or atolls may just well be our Falklands........



SK2 ¡@©ó¡@2002/01/21 19:55
Re:«n¨F­È¤£­È±o¦u? ¦p¦ó¦u? ¯à¦A¹Ü¦^¶Ü?

actually, I think that PRC will not attack Taiwans force in Sparty Islands, since there are alot more important enemies than Taiwan.



¤pº­§À ¡@©ó¡@2002/01/21 21:37
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Armstrong bro,

For blue water fleet, Kidd are enough for ROCN. If we have sufficient fund to acquire Spruce or Burke. I will spend those money on more subs. Even I will consider to fabricate our own sub-building capbility.



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No Problem!
Kiss is not that kind of horrible, if it is kiss of death. hahaha

jj ¡@©ó¡@2002/01/22 12:02
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Happy New Year, Guys
I am more than happy to KICK PLAs ass. But as a neighboring superpower, we still need to deal with them delicately. With Perseverance and resistance.
God Bless Taiwan.



jj ¡@©ó¡@2002/01/22 16:13
Re:«n¨F­È¤£­È±o¦u? ¦p¦ó¦u? ¯à¦A¹Ü¦^¶Ü?

Hahaha
Thank you
Wanna kick PLAs ass?
Yes sir!



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