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TO: MARK Do not rush to your judgement. Not being an expert myself, I found the following article very enlightening on the subject of democracy versus economic development.
KOLKATA - Ten years ago, in an election in the greatest democracy of the world, US president George Bush Sr lost to upstart Bill Clinton despite having presided over the demise of the Soviet bloc and then led his nation to victory in Desert Storm. A sign on the wall of Clintons campaign war room summarized it all: Its the economy, stupid. The same slogan might well apply to China, whose 20-year economic boom is considered by most Sinologists and modern economists to be its greatest modern achievement. Contrast that with India, whose finest and foremost achievement in 55 years of independent existence is considered by many Indophiles and historians to be her flourishing democracy. These two countries contrasting histories naturally lead to consideration of the relationship between democracy and economic success. Throughout the modern free Western world, democracy is normally viewed as the ideal platform for economic growth. For these nations, having both development and democracy is a very real option, and when the economy is threatened, it is democracy that protects it. From a Western standpoint, a country should be both democratic and economically viable, yet it is clear that a nation does not necessarily have to be democratic to be successful economically. It is a dilemma that goes to the core of the problems that many modern developing nations face. The developing world is full of enclaves that are either democratic or economically developing, or in most cases neither. The bulk of sub-Saharan Africa has neither democracy nor development. The Middle East has exploited its oil resources, but at some cost both to development and democracy. East Asia (China, South Korea, Taiwan and Singapore) has gained economic development, largely at the cost of democracy, while India has democracy but not much to show in terms of development (at least to Western standards). For many, having democracy and development is an exclusively Western phenomenon that has been possible because it took these countries 200 years and the colonization of the rest of the world to reach the levels of development that they now enjoy. For a long time, the developing world fancied a different path to development. But this alternative route to development proved to be an illusion when the Soviet bloc collapsed under the collective stress of 80 years of mismanagement and lack of transparency. This was another offshoot of the lack of democracy - no accountability and hence mismanagement. But then, as has been shown in many places in the world, democracy is no insurance against mismanagement. Does there exist a democratic solution to the economic ills of the Third World? The answer to this question is probably the key to a Nobel Prize. For economists in India the problem is a very real one. In the best years of economic growth, Indias GDP rarely grew more than 6 percent annually. In the worst years of economic growth since 1979, Chinas GDP has rarely grown at less than 8 percent. Now Indias growth hovers at under 5 percent, while China is growing at over 7 percent. Is this 2 percent a tax that Indian pays for being a democracy? The Lee theory The logic of the Lee theory is simple - lack of freedoms and democracy hasten economic reform and the large-scale changes required for the economy. For instance, economic reforms often require legislative changes, and these tend to become bogged down because of a widely diverse democratic polity. The Chinese needed to carve out the Pudong industrial area in Shanghai from farmland, and this meant that compensation for land lost had to be paid to thousands of farmers. Had it been India, the whole grand development scheme would undoubtedly have become mired in litigation and compensation issues. The Chinese needed to close down loss-making enterprises in Shanghai, causing the large-scale loss of jobs. Had it been India, democracy would again have been a problem. After all, Chapter V-B of the Industrial Disputes Act is yet to be amended to cope with modern disputes. Hence, China grows at 7 percent, helped by a lack of democracy. Because of democracy, India chugs along at 5 percent. For subscribers to the Lee theory, one needs to have all the basic needs, such as food, shelter and security, to be satisfied before one can advance to other needs, such as freedom and democracy. These people would probably use psychologist Abraham Maslows Need Hierarchy to justify their opinion. Human development and democracy As hard as the report tries to argue that there is really no trade-off between democracy and prosperity, the fact remains that many developing countries face this dilemma. Indonesia, as an emerging, albeit struggling, democracy, makes a compelling study of whether democracy and prosperity clash or complement each other. Indonesia is ranked 110th in the index, which uses data that was available up until 2000. It has hardly budged from its 1995 rank, despite the downfall of one of the worlds most repressive tyrants, Suharto, in 1998 and the winds of freedom that came in its wake. At the same time, economically, people are worse off than during the worst days of the Asian crisis that broke in mid-1997. The reason for Indonesias ranking remaining unchanged could probably be explained by the fact that the freedoms it gained in 1998 were canceled out by the plunge in prosperity resulting from the economic crisis. But looking at the index, countries that are less democratic, yet not necessarily more prosperous, are rated higher, with Vietnam at 109 and China at 96. Democracy may well have something to do with development, which is not all that complementary. In the UNDPs Human Development Report of 2002, it incorporated the World Banks democracy index, which gives a country a democracy score based on civil liberties, political rights and press freedom. On this indicator India scores 0.66, which puts it ahead of Malaysia, Thailand, the Philippines, Singapore, Indonesia and China. But it puts India behind Slovenia, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia. Indian democracy has grown and evolved over the years. In the 80s and 90s, India saw social empowerment on a wide scale, with democracy spreading at the grassroots level. The panchayats (village councils) became a constitutional third tier of governance (the first tier is the political center in New Delhi and the second tier is the state). It was in these very decades that India saw average growth of 5 percent per annum in its GDP (this after considering the two dark years of 1990-91). So as democracy became stronger in India, so did the economy. So perhaps democracy has a positive role to play in economic growth. Institutional economics and democracy It is in this context that democracy assumes importance. Experts have argued that democracy is the required meta-institution that helps develop the other institutions which are needed for development. So it is argued that only a democratic government can ensure the rule of law, whereas an authoritarian regime, like the current one in Zimbabwe, cant. The basic argument being that in a democracy the objective function of the state is the betterment of the people, which may not always be the case with an authoritarian regime. In addition, an authoritarian regime cannot enforce property rights and economic freedoms. The Asian crisis of 1997 drove home the point that financial liberalization without adequate financial regulation is an invitation to disaster. Most of the states without this financial regulation were non-democratic. And look who escaped the Asian crisis: India, which had democracy and consequently the regulatory mechanisms in its financial sector. Maybe democracy is a tool for sustainable long term development. Development as freedom Economist Bibek Debroy is also of the opinion that democracy is the greater provider of freedom to succeed. India for all its imperfections still makes it possible for the son of a school teacher to become Dhirubhai Ambani, the head of the giant Reliance group, or the son of a minority fisherman in a remote village of south India to rise to become A J Adbul Kalam, the president of India. The degree of vertical mobility provided by democratic India is probably unparalleled anywhere in the developing world. Another snap test of democratic success is comparing a sample of Indian students in universities overseas with random samples of students from African, East Asian or even other South Asian countries. Debroy claims that the sample would be far more representative of the Indian polity, regardless of the socio-economic background of the students. This phenomenon, and the underlying structure that sustains it, he says, ought to be non-negotiable. The clincher in the great democracy and development argument lies in statistics. Without democracy it is statistically more likely for a state to become a Congo, a Mozambique, a North Korea or a Lebanon than a Singapore or a Malaysia. In the neighborhood of India lies Pakistan, which over the years has compromised on democracy and simultaneously seen its sterling economic performance deteriorate to a level that now is reliant of World Bank handouts to survive. So while it may be an open question exactly how democracy and development correlate, they certainly do seem to have something in common. |
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To: Mark As the author said, the answer to the existence of a potential trade-off between economic development and democracy could earn you a Nobel Prize. Do you buy his analysis? |
Thinker ¡@©ó¡@2002/09/05 10:10 | |
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The article in Chinese you posted regarding to Chinese experiences in India has little to do with the topic being discussed here. You should have had the brain to figure it out. The English article does make some sense to the focus here. Yet, your intent at making good excuses for the Chinese ridiculous practices on democracy remains the same. Let me make my points short. China is no Singapore as far as the legal system is concerned. Furthermore, without the helps of a clean and efficient political culture and institutions inherited from the British, I would be suspicious of Lee K.Y. capable of striking an economic miracle out of of Singapore while at the same time continuing to take a iron stance on democracy. Keep in mind, Lee was for a long time fighting democracy in the name of preventing communists from becoming nightmare of Singaporean. Hong Kong is a vivid example to demonstrate how insecure the so-called Chinese style of democracy and its corresponding prosperity is. Better pay more attention to how to make a clean and efficient bureaucracy out of the Chinese communist system if you are still a loyalist to communism. Without a comparably efficient political system, China miracle may be numbered, I am afraid. |
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Using India as an example to deny the value of democracy is one simple trick played by Chinese, no matter in Taiwan, HK, or China. I prefer to use a special issue of Economics in 1997 to clarify these tricky arguments claimed by anti-democracy Chinese. This special issue is entitled Nehru Got It Wrong?! The founder of Republic of India, Mr. Nehru was an English trained lawyer, who gave up his cosy life and led his people to independence. However, Britain educated his politics right but perhaps gave him the wrong lessons in economics. Like most elites in that era, Nehru belived in Socialism and planned economics. Although India has been a democratic country since her independence, she began her economics reform very late the early 90s, even later than China and Eastern European countries. What dragged India slowly advancing her economic growth has never been democracy. Instead, socialism and bureacracy were the main reasons. Some argued Indias slow reform is due to lengthy debate in her parliament, which is partially true. But this isnt as sever as socialism legacy. Nothing surprising with Indias slow economics growth. Other social democratic countries in Scandinavian region have slow growth in decades as well. |
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