「統一有什麼好處?」
中國大陸的人口是多的嚇人，只要來一小部份，台灣就負擔不起了，何況素質差異大，差的更非洲那些難民有得比，生活水準低到你可能啃樹皮!!!你會說當然也有好的，對呀!!好的像那些上海富人，生活水準比台北人好約二十年，可是有什麼用?比我們好的，在那過的好好，幹麼來台灣，比我們差的，在那活的生不如死，你真中國政府能防止他們不大量過來嗎?是處於分離的狀態好管制，還是處於統一的狀態好管制，大家都心知肚明嘛!!
「講北京片子，最後都變成大騙子」
現在不要跟我講什麼義氣，我台獨份子什麼不求，求的是將來的利益，你真中國不是也在求利益嗎?歷史證明，你們常為了利益不講義氣。
台灣民主共和國，劉永福抗日期間對你們發出的求救信，你們收到了連理都不理，冷眼台灣人用竹竿綁菜刀去打一場必輸的仗，打贏了也不幫忙，直到日本清除完了在台對你們講義氣的「同胞」，1945年，林獻堂等「三民主義青年團」不計較你們以前的背叛，還很講「義氣」的歡迎，結果怎麼樣?你們的祖先不但沒道歉，還把日本人建立的秩序、現代化及生活水準大大的降低，你可以又說那是蔣介石的錯，可是你怎麼肯定共產黨就會比較好?
動不動就搬些民族主義是說服不了人的，你先有辦法證明統一的好處，再來跟我們談(不是逼喔!!)，目前看來，獨立自主對我們好處多多，起碼就免掉了統一的諸多壞處。
中國人口壓力怎麼解決?
中共當局說什麼:「可以選任國家副主席」，那你先告訴我台灣人代表可以在你們的黨大會裡佔幾席?
中國城鄉差距那麼大，中國要怎麼處理?

你說呀!!你說呀!!你答給我看呀!!不然憑什麼要我放棄自主的權利?

兩岸統一，對中國肯定是有好處的，對台灣絕對沒有任何好處，真不知道你們這些統客到底在想什麼？反正，在共產黨尚未垮台、尚未下野之前，任何形勢的統一談判都是一條死路，您，不會想跟共產黨坐下來談吧？我們蔣總統的教訓您都忘了嗎？真是數典忘祖啊！

你說的話，我會去查證，本人孤陋寡聞，只知道真中國當局說「一國兩制」、「五十年不變」
既然香港的環境可以像中共說的與以前差異不大，何以公務人員要增稅?(如果有幫助，財政會惡化需要增稅嗎!)，何以現在香港人失業率上升，普遍對前景憂慮?
而且你也還沒有對上述問題來提出證明，另外，我所知的是中國大陸目前貪汙風氣很盛，何況共產制度是一種類專制的制度，被統治後的一國兩制，能真的「完全」保障台灣島內較先進的民主制度嗎?千萬別跟我說可以等真中國當局改民主後再統一呀!!!台灣都不用進步嗎?
等待的時間都夠拿來把島內現行制度修的更好或是再重制。

引用:兩岸統一，對雙方民衆是有好處的，唯一不利的可能是現如今臺灣的黨派！就是他們，怕喪失權力而拿臺灣民衆的未來當賭注！
如果你不是民進黨，就請支持統一吧！

The term unification can be very misleading. Most of the time, when people refer to this term, they assume unification means immediate unification, in which PRC is to take over ROC tomorrow, and every Taiwanese will be forced to chant long live chairman Jiang repeatedly.

I do not believe immediate unification should equate unification. Immediate unification would likely cause great harm to Taiwan. It is quite obvious that the difference in the political and economic system would create substantial injury to Taiwan. Immediate unification has very little popularity in Taiwan, and I am against it myself.

On the other hand, the policy of ROC, under the current constitution, has long been gradual unification, which imposes the condition that mainland China be democratic and economically viable first. It is fairly undisputed that mainland China is at the present stage, not democratic. The spirit of the gradual unification is to allow unification only if mainland China becomes an internationally recognized democracy, in which civil liberties and freedom are guaranteed.

我是支持兄弟的

Basically I agree with what you said. In an ideal world, this would be the most peaceful and realistic way to acheive unification between mainland China (PRC) and Taiwan.

However, there are many reasons for Taiwanese people dont want to merge with mainland China(PRC), these reasons can be political, economical, cultural and racial. 50 years ago, there were people wanted to go back to China as their dream. After 50 years of separation, and what Taiwanese people have been through, we just simply cannot speak out loudly that we are Chinese. We use different form of Chinese, we think differently, we have different government system and we even talk in slightly different way.

Thank you. Please take your time. Please also feel free to reply in either English or Chinese.

Yari:

Yeah, I agree also. The hostility from mainland China has been a great contributing factor to the voice of Taiwan Independence. I am very troubled about the various military threats as well. But hopefully there could be something that both sides could work out to ease the tension.

On the other hand, I do feel that Taiwan and mainland China have both fallen into a cycle. Taiwan seeks independence because of mainland Chinas oppression toward Taiwan, and, on the other hand, mainland China asserts this oppression because Taiwan seeks independence. It seems that the two sides have been unable to break this circle for the past decade.

To that end, I do believe Chen Shui-Bians talk yesterday has been very helpful. I believe he is offering the promise of maintaining status quo in exchange for mainland Chinas promise to avoid the use of force. I do hope that mainland China would acknowledge Chens effort in that regard, and I would also hope that both sides could formalize this agreement and perhaps enter into a non-aggression pact with each other to ensure peace across the Taiwan strait for the next 20 or 30 years. The chance for both Taiwanese and mainland Chinese to live freely from military threats would be something to look forward to.

台灣維持目前獨立於中國之外的狀態，國民所得就已經是中國的12倍以上，中國女子都爭先恐後偷渡來台灣賣春，中國男子也想盡辦法來台灣當漁工或打工。

如果台灣將國家名稱改為名副其實的台灣，勢必獲得國際社會更多的承認，即便無法立即提高台灣的國際地位，也比被你們中國併吞好上千百倍。

中國人要來這裡囂張之前，請先想想你的姊妹們為什麼那麼喜歡來台灣脫褲子被台灣人幹呢？原本不想對你們講這些話，但是你們來這裡囂張的程度實在令人厭惡，所以特別再問你一遍，如果你們中國那麼好，為什麼有那麼多中國女子來台灣賣春呢？不但如此，到日本賣春的中國女子也很多。奇怪的是，你們口口聲聲叫日本人是小日本鬼子，你們的姊妹們為什麼那麼喜歡專程跑到日本被小日本鬼子幹呢？

你們這些來這裡張狂的中國人倒是說說看？如果你們中國是好樣的，為什麼你們中國女子會那麼下賤呢？是不是你們中國男子都很下賤，讓你們的姊妹們出來脫褲子賺錢，回去養活你們這些專吃軟飯的男人，你們才有力氣來這裡打嘴砲呢？

韓國人最恨支那的暴行，絕不允許子女與支那交往。
即使小學三年級，還是不交往。
日本與台灣優先，請開欄再膨風，香港悲慘經驗。

600萬人比紐約市的人口少，
更是台灣1/4人口，有何超越之處。

The provincial relations of mainland China is, in my opinion, quite strong. Personally, I find it more likely that the sense of nationalism will tie the provinces together. It is quite possible that a federation model, similar to that of the United States, will be introduced to achieve a balance of power between Beijing and the provinces.

Will democracy take place in mainland China? That is a hotly debated issue. From my personal observation, there are already signs of progress. Citizens in big cities have been criticizing the CCP. In colleges, professors and students have been openly debating national policy. When the show『Meteor Garden』 was cancelled, there were waves of sharp criticism toward the CCP on the internet. The government itself admitted that the human rights condition in mainland China is not good. Of course, the people still do not enjoy as much civil liberties as Taiwan, but progress has already begun. Personally, I believe that mainland China today is somewhat similar to Taiwan in the 1970s.

You fail to consider some internal and external factors at play in the across-strait relationship. There are some elements in Taiwan under the leadership of Li Denghui, who will try every means possible to make Taiwan independent no matter what political and economic changes might take place on Mainland in future. Likewise, some elements in US congress and defence system would not like to see the reapproachment across the Taiwan Strait and will derail any attempts towards the final unification.

抱歉，時代的巨輪是永不停歇，如果你現在只能跟我說將來會有好處要我們等，那我可以告訴你，我們沒有義務、條件去等，台灣的制度其實有很多弊病，如果能修正過來，台獨絕對只會有更好的未來，而如果我們國力己經提升了，而制度又比你們先進，你認為我們還有必要去接受你們以後給予的民主嗎?

引用:閣下不要把腐敗無能的清政府以及國民黨政府的作爲都算到大陸現政權
頭上，大陸現政權就是打著維護民族利益的旗號上臺的。
大陸一直在盡力維護香港，前幾天，上海說要建迪斯尼樂園，與香港的樂園搶客源，結果受到大陸中央的反對，只好暫時擱置，低調處理。

我告訴你，如果你對中國政府這麼有信心，那我們當然也可以對台灣國的政府有信心，要我們相信中國政府能維護我們的利益，是不是比自己來捍衛自己的利益因難?
如果獨立後的制度立的好，我們自己就可以維護了，甚至可以創造新的利益(比如社福的落實)，何必一定要花時間、花精神去期待一個將來「有可能」(也就是不一定)會進步的政府?

I still have some doubts about Lee and his alleged support of Taiwan Independence. On one hand, he has never stated that he supports independence （note: his right hand man Huang has denied the alleged Taiwan statehood at 2008 movement.） On the other hand, Lee has stated in 2000 in an interview with Chinatimes that he is both Taiwanese and Chinese. There are many signs showing his effort toward the localization of Taiwan, but overall, I am still doubtful as to whether he does support independence.

The TI movement in Taiwan, actually, has not been that popular. There is very little market for both immediate independence and immediate unification. At this stage, I think maintaining status quo is the best choice for Taiwan. In the long run, well, I thought the mayor of Kaohsiung had a good proposal: 『We will not exclude unification as a choice for Taiwan.』 （I think it was him but I can be wrong.） The polls indicate that the majority of the population （60-70%） are in favor of maintaining status quo. No president or individual can push for Taiwan independence with so little popular support.

The US attitude toward mainland China is also a hotly debated issue. But the American policy has long been 『one China』 as well as discouraging Taiwan Independence. There are a number of congressmen who hate communism to the bone, but that attitude is also hinged on mainland China movement toward democracy. There are many signs to show that, however slowly, PRC has been moving toward becoming a modern democracy. I am optimistic that the 『China Threat』 theory will wane gradually as the political reforms continue. Of course, that could take a long, long time.

Again, if you are not satisfied with mainland China now, I can also tell you that, neither am I. I dont like many, many aspects of it. But you have to understand that Mainland China is not a constant, it is a variable. Things will change, and they already have been. I am not asking for an unification tomorrow. I am only suggesting that, in the future, when mainland China enjoys freedom, democracy, material and spiritual wealth, that you then consent to unification. It should be a deal that both sides could benefit from. Immediate unification is unfair to Taiwan and I do not think Taiwan should agree to it. But unification with a democratic, wealthy, and advanced mainland China in the future should be beneficial to both sides. I wish you could consider that.

臺灣與中國脫離已經超過一百年了，臺灣與中國根本就是兩個各自獨立的國家，既然是兩
個國家，那談什麼「統一」？敬請諸位網友不要陷入舊中國國民黨、中國人的割不斷臍帶
的思考模式。

中國人的大一統觀念，已經是遠古時代的舊觀念了，因為這種舊觀念，造成幾千年來不斷
的戰亂，在中國歷史裡，中國人一直在為大一統而製造死亡，多少中國人為這個毫無意義
的大中國而死亡？中國人永遠活在虛幻的大中國世界！

台灣人幹嘛去當這種沒意義的中國人呢！

To be frank with you, you are somewhat naive about international politics. Although USA may be the most benign superpower in human history in terms of its territory ambitions, it cannot tolerate any potential challenge to its superpower status. China is regarded by some US congressmen as the leading strategic competitor in the new century and therefore is destined to invite US demonization and containment.

In future, if China could maintain its peace with USA, it would be only attributale to growing economic and military strength of China rather than sympathy from USA. USA never sympathizes with weak countries or losers. It only respects countries which respect themselves and can manage decent economic and military development. No matter what political system China adopts, USA only recognizes the GDP and military prowess in the China. To be deemed as a threat is not necessarity a bad thing. Without threating power, you would not able to manage an equitable deal in future liason with other powers.