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NO:1270_2
Zeb ¡@©ó¡@2002/09/29 22:52
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Taiwanese have more than just goodwill in helping China to become a democratic country. I agree with what winlin5 said.


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«í·R¥x ¡@©ó¡@2002/09/30 05:52
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Good point. I would say most of ¥x°Ó do not raise enough caution to prepare a contingency plan for the unexpected. This is like that you enter jungle with no idea how to retreat when all of the sudden a possibly fatal danger comes to haunt you.

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Great analysis! This also could apply to all political struggles of ¤¤¦@ªº¤â¬q»P¬yµ{.


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«í·R¥x ¡@©ó¡@2002/09/30 10:27
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NO:1270_11
Mark ¡@©ó¡@2002/09/30 12:51
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I wish I could give you a clear-cut and reliable answer. Your questions may involve not only us, the Taiwanese, big multinational banks but most importantly the Chinese authorities which are not so predictable.

At this point, I have little knowledge to go into details about how money can be safely funneled out of China through the helps from big banks you have mentioned. But common sense told me that it might mainly depend upon how you deal with the Chinese financing and banking authorities. Do we have special relations with them in case of emergency?

On the other hand, if China is willing to comply and carry out what she did agree with at WTO, then it might help solve our answer. Multinational banks certainly can help us establish the emergency plan in advance. Unfortunately, China is still a lawless country in which any agreement or contract can be thrown away out of political considerations at any time.

Nevertheless, you have raised the awareness that Taiwanese conducting businesses in China should be preparing for the unthinkable now. When it comes to investing, better play safe than say sorry later on, isnt it?


I strongly doubt that Chinese will do what they have agreed upon at WTO.

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The Chinese themselves have plenty of channels to move money out of China.

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P.S.: wlin5¥S: sorry about my conversations here somewhat unrelated to the forum you initiated.

With regard to µ½·N¥Xµo, Chinese have to prove themselves that they can fight the evil without the helps from others including from Taiwanese. Pursuing democracy is a test of will that has little to do with money. When there is a strong will, there will be a clear way. Taiwanese have won the battle over the evil KMT with little help notably financially from others. It is about time for the Chinese to prove themselves that they too could do the same.



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