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Office of International Services (OIS)
International Update

The International Update is a weekly service provided by the Office of
International Services. Email questions or comments to [email protected].

Office of International Services
STU 300
University of Southern California
Los Angeles, CA 90089-0899
phone: (213) 740-2666
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Office of International Services (OIS)
International Update Special Edition 10/4/02

The International Update is a weekly service provided by the Office of
International Services. Email questions or comments to [email protected].

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Diversity Lottery Workshop

Thursday, October 10

Topping Student Center Room 204/205

2:00-3:00pm

The Office of International Services is please to offer a special workshop on the
Diversity Immigrant Visa Lottery. International students, scholars, faculty and
staff are encouraged to attend.

50,000 green cards are available in this years Diversity Immigrant Visa Lottery,
granting permanent residence and work visas to eligible persons. Applicants for
green cards are chosen by a random computer-generated lottery drawing. Selected
applicants, their spouses (husband or wife), and children under 21 years of age will
receive diversity immigrant visas, which will give them the legal right to live and work
permanently in the United States.

REQUIREMENTS
To be eligible to enter the lottery, you must meet general and education/training requirements.
Both are described below.

General Requirements

To enter the lottery, an applicant must be able to claim nativity in an eligible country and must
meet either the education or training requirement of the lottery program. Nativity in most cases
is determined by the applicants place of birth. However, if a person was born in an ineligible
country but his/her spouse was born in an eligible country, such person can claim the spouses
country of birth rather than his/her own. Also, if a person was born in an ineligible country, but
neither of his/her parents was born there or resided there at the time of the birth, such person
may be able to claim nativity in one of the parents country of birth.

If you were born in any of the following countries, you cannot participate in this years Green
Card Lottery:

CANADA
CHINA (mainland, except Hong Kong SAR, Macau SAR, and Taiwan)<-台灣被放在中國內
COLOMBIA
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
EL SALVADOR
GREAT BRITAIN and its dependent territories (except Northern Ireland)
HAITI
INDIA
JAMAICA
MEXICO
PAKISTAN
PHILIPPINES
SOUTH KOREA
VIETNAM

Sponsored by the Office of International Services

當然，這件事牽涉到出生時的國家，校方似乎也可以解釋成中華民
國統治大陸加台灣時期在台灣出生的人可以抽簽。不過這可能又想
太多了。

我以問過校方

這裡Taiwan 就是指台灣人 不是甚麼中華民國統治大陸加台灣時期在台灣出生的人

他們還拒覺更改內容

To whom it may concern:

I noticed that in your International Update Special Edition 10/4/02, you mentioned
The Office of International Services is please to offer a special workshop on the Diversity Immigrant Visa Lottery..... and in it, you have the following description:

General Requirements

To enter the lottery, an applicant must be able to claim nativity in an eligible country and must meet either the education or training requirement of the lottery program. Nativity in most cases is determined by the applicants place of birth. However, if a person was born in an ineligible country but his/her spouse was born in an eligible country, such person can claim the spouses country of birth rather than his/her own. Also, if a person was born in an ineligible country, but
neither of his/her parents was born there or resided there at the time of the birth, such person may be able to claim nativity in one of the parents country of birth.

If you were born in any of the following countries, you cannot participate in this years Green Card Lottery:

CANADA
CHINA (mainland, except Hong Kong SAR, Macau SAR, and Taiwan)
COLOMBIA
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
EL SALVADOR
GREAT BRITAIN and its dependent territories (except Northern Ireland)
HAITI
INDIA
JAMAICA
MEXICO
PAKISTAN
PHILIPPINES
SOUTH KOREA
VIETNAM

Sponsored by the Office of International Services

Id like to point out that Taiwan is not part of China and has its own regular and seperate immigration quota besides this years Green Card Lottery.

The way you put in your International Update publication has mistakenly implied that Taiwan is part of China and is an entity like Hong Kong SAR, Macau SAR.

Please note that Taiwan does democratically elect its own president and has its own people, territory and government.

I respect your Schools proud history and reputation and understand that to tell the truth and show the fact are an important aspect of education. I truly believe that your school, as an institution of higher education, will honorably correct the incorrectness.

Sincerely yours,

Oh, well, maybe I shouldnt use the term of misleading people. Let me rephrase. Hmm...lets call them forging documents.

Just tell them...

The Chinese Communists established its own country in 1945 but they never had a chance to lay their fingers on Taiwans soil, not even a single day.

Regarding the Formosa, Republic of China is its official name and Taiwan is the name people call it. Just like the United States of America is the official name but people call it America.

南加大在美國在台灣也有同學會

http://www.usc.edu/dept/International_Offices/Taipei/index.html

在美國的還取名CCC, chinese culture club.
實在是替中國做宣傳

PS.另外給中國人的叫CSA

個人英文能力欠佳，
因此以twoonezero前文所譯之文來看：

>>若您是在中國的大陸地區出生(即，不包括香港、澳門、台灣等地區的中國大陸地區)，那，您就不能參加今年的綠卡抽籤」<<

就這一段話來看，
所指的是：只有中國的香港、、澳門、台灣等地區可以參加今年的綠卡抽籤；

為何稱台灣為「中國的台灣地區」呢？
原因如下：

　一　「全世界只有一個中國」，這是聯合國組織裡眾國家的共識，
　　同時也是世界各國的普遍認知；

　二　台灣官方的說法，尚仍於國際上自稱是中國。（有些國家感到很奇怪）

無怪乎南加大會把台灣稱為「中國的台灣地區」了！

－－－－－－－－－－－
補述：

　三　「中華人民共和國為中國的唯一合法代表」，
　　　這也是聯合國組織裡眾國家的共識，
　　　同時也是世界各國的普遍認知；

　四　Republic Of China乃是聯合國組織創會會員國，
　　　任安全理事會常任理事國五國中之一員，
　　　而「中華人民共和國」取代繼承了Republic Of China的權利、地位。
－－－－－－－－－－－

For DV-2004, the high admission countries are: Canada, China (mainland
born), Colombia, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Haiti, India, Jamaica,
Mexico, Pakistan, the Philippines, South Korea, the United Kingdom and
dependent territories, and Vietnam. Persons born in Hong Kong SAR, Macau SAR,
Taiwan, and Northern Ireland are eligible to apply for the DV-2004 lottery.

台灣還是與港、澳、北愛爾蘭並列，理論上還是非國家（這是他們的國策吧），
但 USC 的敘述特別明目張膽。

只要有些國際經驗的,就知道這種事情多的是,我自己親身的經歷如下,

去年Prometric--an exam agent[例如考M.S, Cisco, Oracle..的證照]在其網站上在Local Selection部份把台灣寫成--Taiwan, province of China.經我email指責,才改為Taiwan.

MacAfee軟體安裝程式也把台灣寫成--Taiwan, province of China.去年我去函要求更正,卻相應不理,MacAfee在台也代理竟然無人去跟MacAfee交涉!

英國Orange電信也有類似情況.

This is the e-mail I got this morning from OIS, USC.
I also received some positive feedbacks from our politician and professor friends. Please check if OIS does make the correction on their next publication.

Thanks.
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FROM: laurie ois

Hi Dr Chen:

We took the info from another source and didnt notice the mistake made. Well correct this is this weeks update.

Thanks for the update.

Regards

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1. CORRECTION TO FRIDAYS IU SPECIAL EDITION

OIS would like to correct a portion of our last OIS International Update
in which we announced our workshop to be held this Thursday, October 10 from
2-3pm in TSC 204/205 to discuss the Diversity Lottery.

We utilized information from another source which correctly identified
Taiwan as a country that can participate in the Diversity Lottery, but
mistakenly appears to have associated Taiwan as part of China. Thanks to
several of our kind readers for bringing this error to our attention.
We would like to submit the following from the Department of Consular
Affairs Web Page which provides clear, accurate, and detailed information:

For DV-2004, natives of the following countries are not eligible to apply
because they sent a total of more than 50,000 immigrants to the U.S. in
the previous five years:
CANADA, CHINA (mainland-born), COLOMBIA,
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC, EL SALVADOR, HAITI, INDIA,
JAMAICA, MEXICO, PAKISTAN, PHILIPPINES, SOUTH KOREA
UNITED KINGDOM (except Northern Ireland) and its dependent territories,
and VIETNAM.
Persons born in Hong Kong SAR, Macau SAR and Taiwan are eligible.

我另寫了一封信給OIS in USC
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Hi,

For the correction that Taiwan is an independent country

OIS in USC and American people have earned my respect!

I am really proud of you guys.

Cheers for the democracy and freedom

God bless America!

a Taiwanese Student

最討厭的就是這一句: Both authorities agree that China is divided into provinces, special municipalities, and other entities, although they disagree about what the exact list of entities is.

依照上述的邏輯, Taiwan 是分裂的 China 之一, 所以叫 Taiwan, Province of China, 可是在 PRC 的稱呼上, 卻又不用 China, Province of China ? 要怪老外搞不懂何謂 China 嗎? 我們自己先正名吧 ! 布希用 Republic of Taiwan 才是避免搞混的最佳稱呼!

http://www.mindspring.com/~gwil/utw.html

Divisions of Taiwan

The position of most governments and international organizations is that China is one country and includes both the mainland and the island of Taiwan. The mainland is controlled by the Peoples Republic of China (PRC), and Taiwan by the Republic of China (ROC). Both authorities agree that China is divided into provinces, special municipalities, and other entities, although they disagree about what the exact list of entities is. The area controlled by the ROC is Taiwan province and a small part of Fukien (or Fu-chien, or Fujian), plus the special municipalities of Kaohsiung and Taipei.

On a secondary level, the provinces of Taiwan and (the ROC part of) Fukien are subdivided into hsien (counties, districts) and shih (municipalities, cities). Kaohsiung and Taipei dont have any subdivisions at this level.

International standard ISO 3166-2 was published on December 15, 1998. It superseded ISO/DIS 3166-2 (draft international standard). Both of them use Taiwan, Province of China as the official name of this area (which is a slight misnomer, as it neglects the ROC part of Fukien).

Under this heading, the draft standard listed all the divisions mentioned above on both levels: two provinces, two special municipalities, sixteen districts, and five municipalities. There was an unexplained overlap: Taiwan province actually included the territory of all sixteen districts and five municipalities. Each division was given a three-letter code. Whenever possible, the IATA airport code for the divisions main city was used; elsewhere, the ISO working group assigned arbitrary three-letter abbreviations. There were some ambiguous codes. TNN represented both Tainan district and Tainan municipality, which are actually disjoint but adjacent entities on the secondary level. KHH represented both Kaohsiung special municipality and Kaohsiung district, which are not only disjoint but on different levels.

The final standard lists two special municipalities, five municipalities, and sixteen districts; the two provinces were dropped. Also, the name and code of one municipality were changed from Chilung (CHI) to Keelung (KEE). (Chilung and Keelung are alternate romanizations of the same Chinese name.) Dropping the two provinces avoids dual coverage of Taiwan province, but now the ROC-administered part of Fukien province, consisting Quemoy, Matsu, and other islands, is not covered by any code in the standard. The duplicate codes are still a problem.

Last updated: September 19, 1999

Copyright © 1999 by Gwillim Law. All rights reserved.

>>辯這些有必要, 但是只會辯就很幼稚.
你欠罵?

辯這些跟本沒有任何作用. 這是國際上的規定與認知.
就算我們再怎麼跟別人說台灣與中國如何的不同, 也沒有用. 因為這是目前的規定.
就像西藏與漢人真的不同, 但那又怎樣? 還是中國的一省.
如果台灣以別的名稱(台灣)宣佈獨立並加入聯合國. 就算我們跟大陸再怎麼的相似, 也是不同的國家.

有時候我真的覺得說這些真的會被人家笑. 其實有點程度的外國人都知道是台灣怎麼回事. 只是礙於規定. 不得這麼寫. 但是我們就急的在旁跳腳. 其實外國人沒有那麼笨也沒那麼雞婆吧.

我總認為如何獨立才應該是思考的重點. 寫的讓我們再怎麼爽也不會改變一個中國的條文吧. 唯有宣佈獨立才可永久擺脫中國.

以上為各人拙見

If Taiwanese keep quiet, wrong statement will become the truth little by little.

If you stay in USA long enough, you will know not many people know Taiwan and China are two countries.

就像涂醒哲事件 如果涂醒哲不立刻去追究 社會大眾誰會知道涂醒哲有沒有性騷擾
涂醒哲是不是默認了.

http://www.usais.org/gcl_faq.htm#3
Which countries cannot participate in the Green Card Lottery?
The following are Countries that are excluded from participating in the Green Card Lottery: Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Taiwan, Mexico, Jamaica, Nigeria, Philippines, Columbia, Korea, Poland, India, Vietnam.

但是從US Department of State 的網站上又指出Taiwan可以參加，到底台灣人可以還是不可以參加lottery呢?

當然 China 在國際上的認知為: Peoples
Rep of China.(RPOC).

因此 要 !!!!!抗議!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!抗議!!!!!!!!!!

抗議無效~~
taiwan ----- province of China or piece of shit
ROT ----- WTF!

但是 在各大學註冊填寫表單
一定有台灣的電腦代碼
在法國每年學生要到外事警察局辦的居留證
國籍欄nationalite
我們就大方的填上台灣 TAIWAN
而不是 自由中國
他們只有一個中國政策
按照規定
我們在法國也沒有權設立
所謂的代表處 及文化中心
但是比照魁北克
台灣除了駐法代表處外也有一個小小的文化中心

所謂的規定不規定
由法國人的彈性
可以看出他們的務實面
或說是 像中國 表面上跟私底下不同
法國表面上說一個中國
實質上 法國佬要怎麼作就怎麼做

規定? 在法國
基本是
也像是 參考用的交通號誌
個人領略不同

就像是一個笑話
大陸同學自己轉述
大學裡工友正在換教室中的世界地圖
這位大陸同學邊看新的世界地圖
發現中國與台灣顏色不同
問這位工友
台灣不是一個國家
他是屬於中國的一部份 顏色應該一樣
(中國人都會拿這種事情雞皮蒜毛的事煩一位工友了耶)
工友 想都沒想 的說
對我而言 台灣是一個國家
哈哈哈 妙答!!!