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NO:195_1
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NO:195_4
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I would like to paraphrase an editorial by Song Thet Lai on New Taiwanese Literature Quarterly (1997, Dec.) under the title, Uphold the Banner of Taiwan Nationalism Once Again to address the diversity issue (Duo yuan hua).

Diversity was a slogan arising from the mass movement of Taiwanese people in the eighties. It was an weapon against the hegemony and dictatorship of the KMT under the controll of the Wai-sheng Chinese. It was an idea that enabled the lively activities of various political parties and cultural groups. In the eighties, it had its definite roots in reality. That is, it elevated the oppressed indigenous political parties, cultural groups to the same level of importance with the KMT. It was thus a just cause. Unfortunately, it was soon dogmatized and idealized.

When elevated without limit and qualm regarding the reality, it is dogmatization! It turns into no-value-judgment (all are of equal value!) under this slogan. No matter whether it is Oh-ah or yam, they are all of equal validity and value, and all can be swept under the rug. What an idle thought!

Thus, it is ridiculously said in historical discourse that all colonial rules from outside were equally beneficial to Taiwan: in literature and education the erroneous supposition that we should adhere to the mandarin to make do. They also ask us not to criticize the cultures of others, nor advocate our own languate. If we do not obey their dictate, we are pan-Holok chauvinist and are tainted with ethnic prejudice, so they say.......


NO:195_5
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NO:195_6
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NO:195_7
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NO:195_8
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NO:195_9
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NO:195_10
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NO:195_11
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NO:195_12
£«ÀY ¡@©ó¡@2003/02/09 03:48
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NO:195_13
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NO:195_14
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NO:195_15
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NO:195_16
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murat,

this is LT. Are you that murat my old friend?


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Yes!Thats me, Ill back occasionally. But Im no more agree with so-called Fundametal Tai-du.^_^

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California ranks near the bottom (49th of 50 states) in the number of students for each teacher.

Education Week gives California a failing grade of F for the adequacy of its public school spending. Education Week, Quality Counts 2002.

California ranks 7th worst in the country in the total taxable resources spent on public education. Education spending by the state of California and its localities amounts to just 3.1% of its gross state product


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NO:195_30
£«ÀY ¡@©ó¡@2003/02/11 05:52
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To reader x:

Thank you for providing counter-examples to balance my post.

For >¤@¯ë¤¤¤U¶¥¯Å¤l¤k ¨ÃµLÀò¤½¥­±Ð¨|¾÷·|>,
I meant the quality (not the quantity ) of the education.
From my friends in Wisconsin, Ohio and Iowa, they told me that they have to send their kids to private schools because the contents of what teachers cover are very different. Being an elementary school teacher is not a proud job in America.

For >¾Ç·~¦¨¶Ö¦A®t,¤]¬O¦Û«Hº¡º¡<, I dont think this is a good sign.

The education in Taiwan is better because our ¤H¤O¸ê·½ ranks much higher than America.

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What I have in mind is that poor and rich neighborhoods are very distinct in America.

Anyway, I dont like being an American and I dont like their life style.
I have no incentive to convince people here. Just serve as an example.


NO:195_31
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£«ÀY ¡@©ó¡@2003/02/11 05:52

I would like to give you another counter point regarding the quality of the public education.
My daughter is graduating from our local school this summer. She was accepted into a top notch boarding school in the nation three years ago, but we decided not to send her there. I asked her almost every year whether she regrets not going to attending the private school. She has always been consistently satisfied with the education she received in the public school, although our local high school is not ranked high in the state. In fact the school in next township has a much higher ranking (based on SAT).
She has a best friend living a block away who attends a reputable private school instead of local high school. Her achievement (academic and extracurricular) is not higher than my daughter, in my opinion. In fact her friend often asks my daughter on a lot of academic questions. My daughters friend is a very good student in her school, and is going to Cornell in the coming fall.
I am very satisfied with the quality of education my daughters got from our so-so local high school.


NO:195_32
£«ÀY ¡@©ó¡@2003/02/11 08:19
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¡ô Points taken. Thank you. I am very happy for you that you have a very smart daughter.

NO:195_33
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