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THX, But I wont say anything unoffical for Mr.¤pº§À dislikes that,and I should regard him. |
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I think if PLA cracked Su27s fire control system, their main purpose is to improving the suface attack ability(C-80x,YJ-91 ARM,Hong Niao series Cruise missile,etc.),not AAM(its a purpose too of course). (Im now in some netcafe and no big5 input,and sorry for my broken english) |
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