賤10的全機照;http://armysky.com/bbs/uploadImages/2002730233743.jpeg

請問PL8性能與我們的AIM-9M,天劍一,Magic相比性能誰好??????

還是說這樣的判斷很”爽”？但是意義在哪裡？和事實接近嗎？

(一架剛剛有比較多的照片公佈的飛機，你覺得這樣的資料則夠做這樣的判斷？)

掛點上的掛架可以裝也可以不裝，你不過是因為多看過幾張F-16的照片，你認為你看到的殲-10的照片當中所有的掛架都裝了？

那張是最小油門.....

This photo is EF2K Typhoons cockpit. Note the throttle is for two engines,
4 missiles by the body, and the shape of the canard.

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J-10 (Project 10/Project 8810?) is a multi-role single-engine fighter being developed by Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC) and 611 Institute. It has been selected by PLAAF as the next generation fighter to replace the obsolete J-7 fighter and Q-5 attack aircraft. Shown here is the 03 prototype approaching the runway at CAC/Factory 132 before landing, with its landing gears fully extended. The aircraft appears to have an Su-27 style nose and retangular air intake, an AL-31F type engine, twin nosewheels, and a distinct low-visibility camouflage color scheme. The aircraft also has a large vertical tail plus twin F-16 style ventral stablizers believed to provide greater stability at high AoA. Its fuselage looks considerably longer compared to Israeli Lavi. However its bubble canopy appears less elevated than that of F-16, suggesting the pilot has yet to possess a true 360° view. Unlike J-7E with double-delta wings, it appears to have a pair of inverted gull wings (i.e. the inner portion extends slightly downward, while the outer portion extends flat). Two red dummy PL-8 AAMs are regularly seen carried under the wing as well. The J-10 project was started in the mid-80s based on the experience (tailless delta wing and canard foreplanes) with J-9 which was cancelled earlier in favor of the less risky J-7C/MIG-21MF project. An early model of J-10 revealed a Mirage 2000 style intake with a center shock cone for better high speed performance and a Lavi style tail section, suggesting a possible connection with the cancelled Israeli fighter (however this was firmly denied by both parties). The change indicates that J-10 has gone through at least one major redesign in its 10-year development period from the initial conventional layout (as an air-superiority fighter) to the latest semi-stealthy design (as a multi-role fighter). This change may reflect a shift of its potential adversaries from former Soviet Mig-29/Su-27 to current American F-15/F-16 after end of the Cold War. The new design will certainly be fitted with advanced avionics including a glass cockpit (1 wide-angle HUD + 2 monochrome MFD + 1 color MFD), HMS, HOTAS, GPS/INS, air data computer, RWR, digital quadruplex FBW, digital fuel management system, 1553B databus, and a new PD fire-control radar (search distance 52~148km, track 8 targets simutaneously), which can be either Israeli Elta EL/M 2035, Russian Phazotron Zhuk derivative (Zhemchoug?), or the indigenous JL-10A from LETRI (with technical assistance from Phazotron?). A variety of newly developed air-to-air (e.g. PL-8 short-range IR-guided AAM and PL-11/PL-12/SD-10 medium-range radar-guided AAM) and air-to-surface weapons (e.g. C-701 TV-guided ASM & LGBs) are also expected to be carried under 11 hardpoints. Although it was believed to be powered initially by a 27,560lb/12,500kg thrust AL-31FN turbofan, a modified AL-31F which itself powers Su-27/J-11, Russia reportedly had denied China the license to produce the engine locally. As the result, an indigenous engine (WS-10A?) may be fitted later when the serial production starts. Some US military analysts believe that J-10 could pose a serious challenge to F/A-18E in terms of maneuverability. Some specifications of J-10 are (speculated): empty weight 9,750kg, max TO weight 18,500kg, internal fuel 4,500kg, external load 4,500kg, g load -3~+9, max speed Mach 2.0 (high altitude)/Mach 1.2 (sea level), TO distance <500m, combat radius 463~566km. The development of J-10 has proven to be tortuous. The prototype was rumored to have first flown in 1996, but the project suffered a serious setback in late 1997 when the 02 prototype lost control and crashed, as the result of certain system failure, presumably with either the FBW system or the engine. After careful redesign and extensive ground test, the successful flight of the new prototype (J-10A?) took place on March 23, 1998, which put the project back on the track. Initially 6 prototypes (serial numbers 1001-1006) were built undergoing various static and flight tests at CAC in Chengdu and at the CFTE in Yanliang. Subsequently 3 more prototypes were built (1007-1009) as the project is moving to the pre-production phase while PLAAF remains fully committed. A carrier based version (J-10B?) was rumored but never confirmed. The earliest service date was expected to be 2005. The latest news suggested that the test flight of J-10 is near completion and the production will start in 2003 while 300 are planned.

照片我連不到，不過文字敘述看起來應該就是降落那一張。
而這張照片看到的掛點更少，只有兩個PL-8，不知道如何佐證11個掛點的理論？
以色列的Lavi的確有11+2個掛點，但並不表示J10也會有。
因為Lavi有兩個翼尖掛點，J10已經沒有。
Lavi進氣道兩側有2*3個掛點，只能攜掛250磅或500磅傳統炸彈，還不能是有導引段的。這種70年代的設計在講究精確武器攜帶的今天會不會被採用？也是問題。

http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/aircraft/fighter/j10_9.jpg

這張圖中的J-10有點小,不過可以看到裝在機腹掛點的副油箱.
http://pub47.ezboard.com/fchinaforumfrm57.showPrevMessage?topicID=32.topic

http://www.ycitysh.com/yys/xiaod/www/j10picc.jpg
http://www.ycitysh.com/yys/xiaod/www/j10.jpg

殲十走的是跟歐洲戰機同樣的路線。前翼配三角主翼是有其優點﹕
三角翼意味好的高空高速性能、低翼負荷、高瞬間迴轉率﹔前翼
則提高昇力，有助於攻角。但它同樣也有其缺點，並且這種設計
的戰機這麼多種，其好壞也有高下之分，不能一概而論。在殲十
尚未服役前就說它機動性是「台海之王」，結論下的未免太早。

總之其性能還未有任何已證實的詳細數據佐證。

>殲十的原始設計本就以空戰為主，對執行諸如對海、對地攻擊任務沒有作過高要求
有一種戰機也是以空戰為主，甚至當年還是配備給蘇聯本土防空軍的空防王牌角色，但在中國卻被掛上了火箭跟無導引炸彈，應該猜得出這戰機是什麼吧？
戰機應該專精任務還是多功能構形，這是可以大戰三百回合的話題。但很現實的是，新一代戰機每一種都有空對地的能力，就算是原本打算No pounds for bomb的EF-2000，都拼命宣稱自己可以如何如何。
而在中國，這更是明顯，因為沒有取得絕對空優的把握，就必須讓戰機自己擔任轟炸任務，這是JH-7的設計理念，也是50年前在英倫空戰發生的事跡。

好像是P&W;研發的產品

Should ROCAF buy those F-16用的向推 and related software, so it can upgrade the block-20s when the current engine served up its usful life? Since those will have to be replaced anyways.

AAA:
EF-2000的演變發展史和F-15如出一轍, 九十年代中期的時候, EFA的技術指標是空重9750公斤, 內載燃油4000公斤, 外掛彈量4500公斤, 在標準空戰重量下有著高達1.4的空戰推重比與足以和F-22比肩的機翼負荷, 空戰加速性能以及瞬間/持續轉彎性能, 是十十足足的一架NO Pounds for Bomb空優戰機. 到了九十年代末期時, EF-2000原型機的技術指標已經修正為空重9999公斤, 內載燃油4500公斤, 外掛彈量6500公斤; 而如今的量產機則更進一步提高至10995公斤, 內載燃油4996公斤, 外掛彈量8000公斤以上.....老英更不時以 世上最強多用途戰機 為其大打廣告: 扛著四枚流星, 兩枚AIM-132, 兩枚暴風之影或金牛星巡航飛彈, 兩具1500L油箱+/-兩具1500L適型油箱的雄姿身影是EF-2000在近年來參加各大航太展時的標準POSE.....