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Re:AIM120¥ý¶i¤¤µ{ªÅ¹ïªÅ¸¼u ¬ü·|¥æµ¹¥xÆW¡H | |
it is also possible that max °l and ¥´ will be affected by the target spread... say are they all with in a 30 degrees circle and such... at least this is the case for S300s capabilities. especially now that the processing speed is ample. |
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coco: you cannot assume somethings reliability is low just because you do not know it. Assuming such things can prove deadly in combat. Or are you helping PRC to lower the alertness of Taiwan?? |
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flak ¦Ñ¤j¡R ¤£¹ï§a¡S´¼§Q¤¤ë«á¦³¨S¦³q§Ú¤£²M·¡¡A¥i¬O¤Ú¦è¥|¤ë ¤~¨M©wn¶R¡A¦³¥i¯à³o»ò§Ö´N¥æ³f¶Ü¡S¬Ý¬Ý¤U±³o«h»D¡R 20 May, 2002 The United States would agree to sell Chile Raytheon-built Should Chile ask, yes we would [sell AMRAAM], Lt Gen. Tome Chile has not requested AMRAAM, although it recently signed Last month, Brazil became the first Latin American country to The U.S. policy is one of restraint in arms exports, Walters The decision to sell the AMRAAM to Brazil was made after We had heard reports of that for some time, but had never been The State Department previously had said that once that capability If Peru has been willing to dispose of those weapons, the The U.S. is expected to make a formal offer to Brazil on |
flak ¡@©ó¡@2002/07/23 16:04 | |
Re:AIM120¥ý¶i¤¤µ{ªÅ¹ïªÅ¸¼u ¬ü·|¥æµ¹¥xÆW¡H | |
À³¸Ó¬O¤Ú¦è¡A¥L¤â¤Wªº½T¨S³f¡A¦ý¬ü°ê¤w¸g¨M©wnµ¹³f¤F DONE DEAL Washington wont fink out on selling AIM-120 Amraam air-to-air missiles to Brazil. It seemed like that might happen when Peru decided to get rid of its Russian-made R-77 beyond-visual-range (BVR) missile, because the U.S. policy was to withhold export approval as long as there was no Amraam-like system in South America. Peru bought the R-77s for its MiG-29s but is now taking the missile out of service because they couldnt be integrated onto the fighter. Too late, say U.S. officials. Now that a BVR weapon exists in the region that led to a U.S. commitment to export Amraam to others, the decision to sell wont be reversed. Says one Pentagon type: The toothpaste is out of the tube. |
¦ÑÓÔ ¡@©ó¡@2002/07/24 09:43 | |
Re:AIM120¥ý¶i¤¤µ{ªÅ¹ïªÅ¸¼u ¬ü·|¥æµ¹¥xÆW¡H | |
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cobrachen ¡@©ó¡@2002/07/24 11:25 | |
Re:AIM120¥ý¶i¤¤µ{ªÅ¹ïªÅ¸¼u ¬ü·|¥æµ¹¥xÆW¡H | |
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flak ¡@©ó¡@2002/07/24 11:39 | |
Re:AIM120¥ý¶i¤¤µ{ªÅ¹ïªÅ¸¼u ¬ü·|¥æµ¹¥xÆW¡H | |
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sohonor ¡@©ó¡@2002/07/24 19:14 | |
Re:AIM120¥ý¶i¤¤µ{ªÅ¹ïªÅ¸¼u ¬ü·|¥æµ¹¥xÆW¡H | |
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flak ¡@©ó¡@2002/07/24 19:53 | |
Re:AIM120¥ý¶i¤¤µ{ªÅ¹ïªÅ¸¼u ¬ü·|¥æµ¹¥xÆW¡H | |
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sohonor ¡@©ó¡@2002/07/24 20:30 | |
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cobrachen ¡@©ó¡@2002/07/24 20:43 | |
Re:AIM120¥ý¶i¤¤µ{ªÅ¹ïªÅ¸¼u ¬ü·|¥æµ¹¥xÆW¡H | |
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¤À¶¤ªø ¡@©ó¡@2002/07/24 23:50 | |
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Re:AIM120¥ý¶i¤¤µ{ªÅ¹ïªÅ¸¼u ¬ü·|¥æµ¹¥xÆW¡H | |
1.¬ü°ê¤H¤£¬O¶Ì¥Ê AIM120¥æµ¹¥xÆW¤H ªí¥Ü¤¤¦@x¤O´£¤É¤F ¹ï¥xÆW¤£¬O¤@¥ó¦n¨Æ 2.idf «áÄòµo®iªZ¾¹¸ü¥x¬O¤£¬O¦³su-27µo®isu-30ªº¨ý¹D©O ¥»¤H«Ü¦n©_ |
flak ¡@©ó¡@2002/07/25 08:31 | |
Re:AIM120¥ý¶i¤¤µ{ªÅ¹ïªÅ¸¼u ¬ü·|¥æµ¹¥xÆW¡H | |
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¤p¤ò ¡@©ó¡@2002/07/26 19:20 | |
Re:AIM120¥ý¶i¤¤µ{ªÅ¹ïªÅ¸¼u ¬ü·|¥æµ¹¥xÆW¡H | |
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unnamed ¡@©ó¡@2002/07/26 22:32 | |
Re:AIM120¥ý¶i¤¤µ{ªÅ¹ïªÅ¸¼u ¬ü·|¥æµ¹¥xÆW¡H | |
>> ¤Ñ¼C¤@-->¤¤Q¤½¨½ The IR seeker most likely will not be able to lock on the target at these kind of range. But ~20KM might be something to shoot for. The extra range will be more appreciated in the SAM version I think. |
Âk¨ÓªÌ ¡@©ó¡@2002/07/26 22:58 | |
Re:AIM120¥ý¶i¤¤µ{ªÅ¹ïªÅ¸¼u ¬ü·|¥æµ¹¥xÆW¡H | |
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unnamed ¡@©ó¡@2002/07/26 23:04 | |
Re:AIM120¥ý¶i¤¤µ{ªÅ¹ïªÅ¸¼u ¬ü·|¥æµ¹¥xÆW¡H | |
Mica have inertial command, so it can get target info before the seeker is able to lock on target. |
cobrachen ¡@©ó¡@2002/07/26 23:12 | |
Re:AIM120¥ý¶i¤¤µ{ªÅ¹ïªÅ¸¼u ¬ü·|¥æµ¹¥xÆW¡H | |
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flak ¡@©ó¡@2002/07/27 15:37 | |
Re:AIM120¥ý¶i¤¤µ{ªÅ¹ïªÅ¸¼u ¬ü·|¥æµ¹¥xÆW¡H | |
>Mica have inertial command, so it can get target info before the seeker is able to lock on target. ¤£¡AµJ¥±°}¦Cªº¬õ¥~½u´M¼Ð¾¹°»´ú¶ZÂ÷¡A«ç»ò¥i¯à¬O¦Ñ¦¡´M¼Ð¾¹ªº¤Ñ¼C¤@¡B¥¨Á¯¡BAIM-9M¡BR-73/74¥i¤ñªº¡H ¤@¯ë¨Ó»¡¡A·s¤@¥N¬õ¥~½u¸¼uªº°»´ú¶ZÂ÷³£¬O¸¼uªº¨â¤T¿¥H¤W¡C¨Ò¦pAIM-9XÁnºÙ¬O9Mªº3¿¡AMICA IR´¿¸g¬ã¨s¹L¯S²§¥\¯à¡A¥ý±Ò°Ê´M¼Ð¾¹·íIRST¥Î¡A¦A§â¥Ø¼Ð¥æµ¹Magic II¡C |
unnamed ¡@©ó¡@2002/07/27 15:42 | |
Re:AIM120¥ý¶i¤¤µ{ªÅ¹ïªÅ¸¼u ¬ü·|¥æµ¹¥xÆW¡H | |
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flak ¡@©ó¡@2002/07/29 09:00 | |
Re:AIM120¥ý¶i¤¤µ{ªÅ¹ïªÅ¸¼u ¬ü·|¥æµ¹¥xÆW¡H | |
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