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Clarificationi of some concepts. LASER can use underwater, and LADAR actually can be use for underwater detection. According to DTM reports, in the Desert Storm the USN SH-2G use it's new LADAR called Magic Lamp to detect mines. It's just a prototype, but it's quite success. However there are restrictions, the system can be effective only if the sea is calm and clear, and the effective depth is 50 metres. LASER can use under water, just how effective it is. A practical under water LASER detection system probably would need(or exceed) the size of the LASER system installed in the YAR-1 Airborne Laser, and effectiveness can be affected greatly by marine life, weather, water movement, so I think that it's less practical than Sonar, apart from searching mines.
I did saw the actual model of 039A and the proposed aircraft carrier, but, where are they? They are not exist, yet. It's just the same case as I saw a model of Type051 in Tsingdao, great armamment, but, not exist in reality, yet. Plans always change, and often, being dropped, because of various reasons. Unless we see the real thing, nothing can be trusted. Even we see it, we need to have careful inspection to determine whether it's true or not.
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