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NO:905_16
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We are not omniconscience, therefore history expierenced by different people are surely different. However, I believe there is a objective timeline that we can compare our expierence to so that the description of the commonly recognized history is just and fair. I think I am more likely to be ­ð¦N¬_¼w here in this column. §Ú¦b³o¸Ì¤jÁn¯e©I ROC ¬O¬x¤ô²rÃ~ ¤£¥i¥H«O¯d ¦ý¬O¦n¹³¤]¨S¤HÃÙ¦P. I would gladly accept it if anyone argues with me and tells me that I am wrong. Perhaps recognition of ROC to be a sovereignty country on Taiwan from Formosan is truely better then denying that. However, people just ignore me as they would ignore ­ð¦N¬_¼w.

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NO:905_31
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NO:905_32
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NO:905_33
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NO:905_34
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http://www.taiwanmidway.com/status/taiwan.htm I hope you will like it.


NO:905_35
´¡¼L¤@¤U ¡@©ó¡@2004/03/03 16:23
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NO:905_36
±i§µºû ¡@©ó¡@2004/03/03 18:07
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NO:905_37
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NO:905_38
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NO:905_39
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NO:905_40
ace ¡@©ó¡@2004/03/05 13:23
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Former President Hoover spoke to President Truman:
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/hoover/exile.htm
That there should be a statement that the United States had no desire to exterminate the Japanese people, had no desire to destroy the Japanese form of government, that it had every desire to see Japan return to the family of nations and to build itself into a prosperous nation. I said that I felt such a declaration should include some intimation that they could keep Korea and Formosa. Korea had a much worse government before the Japanese had taken it over; that the United States had made a treaty with Japan acknowledging the Japanese sovereignty over Korea and that legalistically we had no claim for its separation now.

As for Formosa, the Formosans neither sprang from the Chinese nor the Japanese and also China did not have any particular moral right to that territory.


NO:905_41
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NO:905_42
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NO:905_43
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>>¥þ¥@¬É¦³200¦h­Ó¦a¤è¥sFormosa!

Doesnt matter. None of them is a name of a country. Were not making up a new name but changing it to our old name--the one we used to be known for almost 4 centuries.

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What a motivating word! Thats why I prefer it over Taiwan.


NO:905_44
air ¡@©ó¡@2004/03/05 16:17
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NO:905_45
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NO:905_46
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