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Armor in Normandy
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Brasseys D-Day Encyclopedia
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By Tank Into Normandy
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The Battle of Normandy 1944
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D-Day As They Saw It
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D-Day Images of War
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D-Day Reflections in Courage
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BBC Books, $19.95
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The D-Day Companion
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Osprey Publishing, $29.95
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D-Day 1944 Voices From Normandy
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D-Day Remembered
24 Hours That Saved the World
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D-Day Ships
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US Naval Institute, $39.95
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Dawn of D-Day
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Remember D-Day
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Ten Days to D-Day
Countdown to the Liberation of Europe
by David Stafford
Little, Brown, $26.95
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Voices of Valor
D-Day, June 6, 1944
by Douglas Brinkley & Ronald J. Drez
Bulfinch Press, $35.00
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D-Day
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John Wiley & Sons, $19.95
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D-Day: Juno Beach
Canadas 24 Hours of Destiny
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D-Day
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The D-Day Atlas
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The D-Day Experience
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by Richard Holmes
Andrews McMeel, $39.95
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Day the Devils Dropped In
The 9th Parachute Battalion in Normandy ¡X D-Day to D+6
by Neil Barber
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Normandy
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Voices From D-Day
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NO:22_45
Supp ¡@©ó¡@2004/06/17 13:08
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NO:22_46
Supp ¡@©ó¡@2004/06/17 13:18
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NO:22_47
Supp ¡@©ó¡@2004/06/25 01:43
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NO:22_48
Supp ¡@©ó¡@2004/06/27 20:25
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NO:22_49
dasha ¡@©ó¡@2004/06/28 06:27
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NO:22_50
¥ì¶³ ¡@©ó¡@2004/06/28 22:31
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NO:22_51
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NO:22_52
Light ¡@©ó¡@2004/06/30 13:15
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NO:22_53
rockitten ¡@©ó¡@2004/07/03 17:21
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NO:22_54
Luke-Skywalker ¡@©ó¡@2004/07/16 18:56
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NO:22_55
Luke-Skywalker ¡@©ó¡@2004/07/16 21:30
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NO:22_56
Luke-Skywalker ¡@©ó¡@2004/07/18 00:10
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NO:22_57
§õ²E­·®á ¡@©ó¡@2004/07/30 01:10
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NO:22_58
flak ¡@©ó¡@2004/08/30 21:13
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NO:22_59
Darth Panda ¡@©ó¡@2004/08/31 00:44
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IAPR12 is really nice but......28 euro!!!!
poor me..... it is really to much for a student.

But I do have 127 Osprey military books on my computer


NO:22_60
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NO:22_75
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NO:22_76
³·­· ¡@©ó¡@2004/12/02 03:25
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NO:22_77
667 ¡@©ó¡@2004/12/04 00:16
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NO:22_78
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NO:22_79
cobrachen ¡@©ó¡@2004/12/16 12:24
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NO:22_80
Luke-Skywalker ¡@©ó¡@2004/12/16 18:56
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NO:22_81
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NO:22_83
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NO:22_84
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NO:22_85
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NO:22_86
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NO:22_87
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NO:22_88
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NO:22_89
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NO:22_90
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NO:22_91
cobrachen ¡@©ó¡@2004/12/22 22:47
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NO:22_92
flak ¡@©ó¡@2004/12/23 11:24
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NO:22_93
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NO:22_94
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NO:22_95
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NO:22_96
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NO:22_97
Light ¡@©ó¡@2004/12/30 06:18
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NO:22_98
fer-de-lance ¡@©ó¡@2004/12/30 08:29
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>¯Î¥x¥Í¨º¥»¡u¶Â¿ß¤¤¶¤¡v...

Heheheheh, talk about hidden secrets ... Here is one tale of intrigue I have first-hand knowledge of. Chris Pocock asked and received info on the ROCAF from a very young and foolish grad student, (what do you call an adolescent fer-de-lance ... a fer-de-bâton?).

Pocock provides a free copy of the Dragon Lady in exchange for a written review to publicize his book. Your Truly duly writes the review for a Chinese newspaper and a certain journalist Alex submits the article under his own by-line.

I guess journalists all love to be the one to break the sensational story. (Not being one myself, I was content just to see justice done, wrongs put right, families reunited and all that sentimental stuff.) Anyway, our friend Alex probably thought he had the scoop of the decade when he broke the story (coveniently written by Yours Truly). He was exceedingly pissed when ¯Î¥x¥Í came out with his book and got all the recognition.

Funny how things turn out ... Being able to interview the two Black Cats over the phone was reward enough for me. Could not help being sentimental and thanking them both for their efforts and sacrifices. In return, both men gave me many great details of the mission when they were shot down. It was moving because it felt as if they were anxious to tell everything, perhaps it was because they never had the chance to debrief after their last mission ... One only hoped that it was as rewarding for them to be able to tell their stories in Chinese as it was for me to hear it. (The CIA who took care of them after their release by Communist China debriefed them on arrival in the U.S. - who said the Agency was heartless and did not take care of people who risked their lives for them ...)

The contrast between the two men could not be greater. Both had their wives re-marry because the Communist never released news of their capture.

Chappie Yeh (now calls himself Robin) settled into a new life in Texas and eventually re-married. His first wife visited him after he was first released. He said that she provided valuable emotional support at a time when there were big changes in his life. They made peace with each other and decided the best thing for everyone was for her to stay with her second husband. Yeh moved on with his life ... much like the character played by Tom Hanks in the movie Cast Away. This probably had to do with Yeh s Western upbringing in Hong Kong and his good grasp of English.

Chang, on the other hand, really wanted to return to Taiwan and his family. The man (an army officer) who married his wife had promised that if Chang was ever found alive, he would allow her to return to Chang. This army officer was true to his word - an illustration of the moral qualities of that generation - if only this generation could learn to be half as upright as these men!

So, there you have it, a happy ending with a family reunited! It is satisfying to see that the Pen was mightier than the Sword - especially when it was your own pen! Also learned that what you can write would not mean jack-diddly unless the environment was right for the people to respond. Ten years earlier and it would not have been possible to generate the uproar over the issue of the government abandoning these brave men who happened to have been taken prisoner by the enemy. How times change!

Not wanting publicity aside - it was VERY satisfying to know what you write could make a difference - (for the good) - AND cause an uproar at the same time!! So I teach my kids not to get into senseless arguments and flame wars:

DON T SAY ANYTHING IF YOU DON T HAVE ANYTHING GOOD TO SAY ...

( ... definition of GOOD being something that would make a positive difference ... :)


NO:22_99
cobrachen ¡@©ó¡@2004/12/30 09:09
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NO:22_100
Light ¡@©ó¡@2004/12/31 07:41
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God bless Everest Riccioni and the Canadair Sabre Mk 6 (with the Orenda engine) that inspired the need for such a Thermodynamic view of ACM that benefitted the Starfighter so much! (Remember the Snake Sez series?)

Hey Light, here is the link to the Sabre vs MiG-15 flight envelopes that I owed you ...

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