°êxx¥v±Ð¨|
¦^À³¥»ÃD | ¦Û¿ï©³¦â¡ô | ªð ¦^ |
Darth Panda ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/27 05:45 | |
°êxx¥v±Ð¨| | |
µo®i°êx¥²¶·±¹ïx¥v¡C Oh great! I didnt open a topic for a year..... |
²M¼ä¤u ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/27 13:05 | |
Re:°êxx¥v±Ð¨| | |
¥»¨Óp¹º¥ÑºôºÞ¶}Äæªº...·íµM¡A²{¦b¬O¤£¯à¥´Â_ Darth Panda¥S ªº³¥±æ°Õ^^ ¥»Ä檺°ò¥»ì«h¬O©Ò¿×ªº¡y²{¤µ°êxªºx¥v±Ð¨|¤§§Ú¨£¡z... Ó¤H»{¬°³o¬O¤@ÓÄYµÂ¨Ãȱo°Q½×ªº¸ÜÃD ¦ý½Ð¤j®a°w¹ïijÃD¥»¨µoªí¬Ýªk¡A¦Ó¤£n±Mª`©ó¬FªvijÃD¤Î·NÃѧκA¡A ¨ä¥L«h¤ñ·Ó¥»ª©ªºª©³W¡A ³Ì«á¡A¦b¨º©«°°³y·s»Dªº¤è±...ɥγ··¥Sªº¸Ü: ¡y³oºØ¥´µÛ¬õºX¥µÁûÅT¼u»s³yij½×¡AµM«á¤S¸Ë§ê¨ä¥L¨¥÷¥X¨Ó¤Ï¬õºX·d¥Ù¬ÞªºRPGª±ªk¡A ³oºØ¨Æ±¡¥H«e¤wµo¥Í¹L¡A¥H«á¤]¤£¯à«Oµý¤£¦Aµo¥Í... ³o¤]¬O¬°¦ó¥»ª©n¨D¥ô¦óx¨Æ·s»D¶K¤å»Ý¸Ô¦Cì©l¨Ó·½¡A ¥»ª©¦CºÞªº¤£¨üÅwªï¤Hª«¤¤¡A¦h¦W´N¬O¦Ñ©óª±RPG¦¹¹D...¸Ô±¡´N¤£¦h»¡¤F ¤£¦h¼G¥o¤F¡A½Ð¤j®a¿ãÅDµoªí¦Û¤vªº¬Ýªk§a!! ^^ |
²M¼ä¤u ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/27 13:19 | |
Re:°êxx¥v±Ð¨| | |
Âà¦Û¤w§R°£ª©±ªº¬ÛÃö°Q½× (¤w¸g×§ï¹L) Äõ¶§¿ô·à¹Î ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/26 09:12 §Ú̬°¯u¹ê»P©ú½T¥ß³õ¦ÓÆg¬ü -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NO:102_5³·· ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/26 11:40 ´N²{¹ê±¨Ó°Q½×¡A½±¥úÀY¤h©x¾Ç®Õ³£°k¾Ç¨S²¦·~¨S¨ü¹L§¹¾ãx¨Æ±Ð¨|¡A -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NO:102_6®ü¯T ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/26 12:18 °êxªº¥ô¦ó°È¹ê§ï²³£¸Ó¨ü¨ì¥þ¥Áªº¤ä«ù. ¨ä¹êx¥v¤]¬O¾ú¥v, ¨D¯u°È¹ê´N¦n, «ÂI¦b©ó¦³¨S¦³°È¹êªº±Ð¨|©x§L»{ª¾¨ì¡yXXXXXÄÒx¡z -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NO:102_7®ÇÆ[ªÌ2 ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/26 12:34 >>³æ´N¡u¹çº~¤Àµõ¡v³o¤@¬q¡A¥þ¥@¬É´N¥u¦³¦b¥xÆWªºéw¦Ê©mÁÙ¦bŪ¨º¨ÇÁÀ¸Ü¶Ç©_¡C ¥[¤W¤@»y±a¹Lªº¤¤ì¤j¾Ô -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NO:102_10Pikachuu ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/26 13:51 ªGµM,±M·~¾ú¥v¦A«×³Q¢¬°¬FªvªA°È, §Y«K®ÉªÅÀô¹Ò§ïÅܤ]¤@¼Ë. ¶û¥H©¹±Ð¬ì®Ñ¤W³o¬q¾ú¥v§¹¥þ¬O§á¦±ªº¯«¸Ü? «Ü¦n!¨º§óÀ³¸ÓÁÙì¯u¬Û! NO:102_11Pikachuu ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/26 14:00 >>¥[¤W¤@»y±a¹Lªº¤¤ì¤j¾Ô ³oªº½T¤Ó¤£À³¸Ó¤F,³o¤À©ú´N¬O¥_¥ï¨S¦³«Å¶Ç¤¤¯«©_ªºÃÒ¾Ú -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NO:102_13toga ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/26 16:53 ¦³¤ß¤H·Q³yÁÁ¥Í¨Æ»s³y½Ä¬ð, ¤£¥Nªí§^½ú´NnÀH¤§»DÂû°_»R, 1. ²z·Qªº°êxx¥v±Ð¨|¤§§Ú¨£ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NO:102_16¦w°ê¦x ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/26 17:01 §Úªº¥ß³õ¬O....... ³o¨ÇªF¦è·íµM¬O®Ú,¥i¬O®Ú¤£¤@©w¦³¥Î,©Ò¥H³oºØªF¦èÁöµM¬Onª¾¹D, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NO:102_17toga ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/26 17:14 ¦³¨S¦³»ùÈ¥i¯à¤]n¬Ý¦p¦ó±Ð¾Ç, ±q¦óºØ¨¤«×Æ[ÂI¤Á¤J, ¹ï¥xÆW¦Ó¨¥, ¤p¤ô·¾¸Ìªº¤p¤ô¾Ô¤§±Ð°V»ùÈ¥¼¥²¤£¦p¤j®ü¾Ô, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NO:102_18Darth Panda ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/26 18:10 I do agree with Pikachuu ¤µ¤Ñªº°êx¬O¥H«eªº°ê¥ÁÄÒx, ±z¥²¶·±¹ï¡C >¯«¸Ü¬G¨Æ¤Uªº¯u¬Û¡ã¥_¥ï¡þ§Ü¤é¡þ¶Ïê¦U¾Ô§Ð¤§¯u¬Û»P¬Ù«ä a: We have to ask RA (oh my son god.....hahaha how are you?) ³·· NO:102_19Pikachuu ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/26 19:31 >>2. ¯«¸Ü¬G¨Æ¤Uªº¯u¬Û¡ã¥_¥ï¡þ§Ü¤é¡þ¶Ïê¦U¾Ô§Ð¤§¯u¬Û»P¬Ù«ä ´Á«Ý¤¤ >>¦pªG¾ã¤Ñ¥uŪ¨º¨ÇªF¦è,©Î¬O§â³o¨ÇªF¦è·í¥DÅé¦b±Ð ¦pªG´N¥\¯à©Ê¦Ó¨¥¡A¶À®ü®ü¾Ô¡B¤é«X¾Ôª§¡B¤Ó¥¬v¾Ôª§¦b¬ãŪ¾Ô¥v¾Ô²¤¤Wªº½T»Ý¦³«n¥÷¶q¡F >>Åý®üxŪŪRAªº¶À®ü®ü¾Ô¤å³¹,±q¾Ç·|¬Ý¤µ¤Ñ°ÝÃD¡C °O±o¥H«e¦b¦yºÝ¬ì§Þ½×¾Â¦³¬Ý¨ì¬Y¦ì°ª¤HÃö©ó¶À®ü®ü¾Ôªº½×ÂI¡]¦n¹³¦b¯ùÀ]¤]¦³¡^¡A -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NO:102_20ryan2181 ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/26 20:14 ¡ô¥¿¬Ora¦Ñ¤jªº¤j§@ (²M¼ä¤uµù: ´Àra¦Ñ¤j¥´Ó¼s§i ^^) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NO:102_22ªi°Ê²É¤l ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/26 21:26 To: Darth Panda ¦Ó ½±¤½¤¶¥Û©ó1910¦~11¤ë¦Û®¶ªZ¾Ç®Õµ²·~¦Ü°ª¥Ð¤J¥î¨£²ß,¹j¦~¨¯¥è²©RÃzµo, ¸Ô±¡¥i°Ñ¾\¡y½±Á`²Î¯¦¿ý¡z(¤¤¥¡¤é³ø¥Xª©ªÀ). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NO:102_23ILLwill ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/26 23:28 >>¤µ¤Ñªº°êx¬O¥H«eªº°ê¥ÁÄÒx, ±z¥²¶·±¹ï¡C ¯u¥¿ªº«ÂI¬O,§ÚÌ·Qn²Õ«Ø¤°»ò¼Ëªºx¶¤?¬O²Õ«Ø¤@ӥѽ±¤¤¥¿®É¥N¥H¨Ó¤@¯ß¬Û©Óªº¤¤µØ°êx¹D²Î, >>¦ý¦pªG¬O¦Û¤vªº¾ú¥v¡AµL½×¤º®e¦h»ò¤£ºë±m¡AÁÙ¬O¤£¯à°kÁסC §Ú·Q³o¥¿¬O¾ãÓ°ÝÃDªºÃöÁä,¦pªG»¡§Ú̹ï©ó°ê®a¾ú¥vªº¸ÑÄÀ, ¦ý¬O¦pªG§Ú̹ï©ó°ê®aªº¸ÑÄÀ¼Ð·Ç§ó¥[ÄY±Kªº¸Ü, |
Zenobia ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/27 14:06 | |
Re:°êxx¥v±Ð¨| | |
¦b¤j®a¸Ü§X¤l¥¼¶}¤§«e¡A¥ýÁ¿¥y¸Ü¡G¾Ô¥v¤£µ¥©óx¥v¡Ax¥v±Ð¨|¤]¤£µ¥©ó¾Ô¥v±Ð¨|¡C x¥v¬Ox¶¤ªº¾ú¥v¡A·íµM¥]§tx¶¤ªº¾Ôª§¸g¾ú¡A¤]¥i¥H·Q¹³¦¨¤@Ó¤½¥qªº¾ú¥v¡F»¡¹ê¦bªº¡A³o¹ï¤°»ò¾Ô³N©Î¾Ô²¤¾i¦¨¡]©ÎªÌ»¡²{¦b¤½¥qªº¸gÀç¤è¦V¡^¨S¤°»òÃö«Y¡AÁ¿¦nÅ¥¤@ÂI¬O¤°»ò¾®»Eû¤u·N§Ó¤§Ãþªº¡AÁ¿¹ê»Ú¤@ÂI¹À¡A´N¬O«Å¶Ç¼s§i°Õ¡C¨Æ¹ê¤W¡A§Ú̳̱`¬Ý¨ì¤@Ó¤½¥q²¥vªº®ÉÔ¡A´N¬O¦b¨D¾®É¬Ý¤½¥q²¤¶¡C ¾Ô¥v¹À¡A¾Ôª§ªº¾ú¥v¡A¤£ºÞ¬O½Ö¥´½Ö³£ºâ¡A¤£»Ýn¬O¦Û¤vªºx¶¤¥´ªº¤~¯àŪ¡F»¡¬ï¤F¡A´N¬O¥«±¤W½æªº¸gÀçºÞ²zÂO®Ñ¡AÅý§AŪ¤F«á¯à¥H¥v¬°Å²¦Ó¥R¹ê¦Û¤v¡A¨M©w¦Û¤v¸Ó«ç»ò°µ¡CŪ¾Ô¥v¡A¥Øªº¤~¬O°ö¾i¾Ô³N¾Ô²¤¯À¾iªº¡C ½Ð¤j®a¥ý·Q²M·¡§Ų́쩳n°Q½×ªº¬Ox¥v±Ð¨|¡AÁÙ¬O¾Ô¥v±Ð¨|¡A¤×¨än·d²M·¡x¥v¬O·F¤°»ò¥Îªº -- §Ú¤£³ßÅwx¥v¸Ì±¹L«×ªº§j¤û¦ÓÅܦ¨¤£¹ê¼s§i¡A¦ý¬O¼s§i´N¬O¼s§i¡An¨D¬Ý¼s§i¯à°ö¾i¾Ôª§Æ[¥u¬O½t¤ì¨D³½½}¤F¡C |
BWS ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/27 19:07 | |
Re:°êxx¥v±Ð¨| | |
®³¯}±[»¡¹L ¡u ¤Zºë³q¾Ôª§ÃÀ³Nªº¤j±N,¨ä°ß¤@¯µ³Z,´N¬O¦b¾Ôª§¤§®É,¯à®Äªk¾ú¥N¦W±N¤§¾Ôªk,¥H¤Î ¼ôŪ¾ú¥v¤W¦UºØ¾Ô§Ðªº¬ö¿ý,³o¨Ç¬ö¿ý¬O³Ì§¹¾ãªº¾Ôª§ÃÀ³N±Ð§÷,©Ò¦³§@¾Ôªº§ð¦uì«h ¨Ì¦¹³£¥i¥H¹B¥Î¦Û¦pªº.¡v ¦³¨Ç°ê¦@¾Ôª§¸ê®Æ,»P¨ä¥þµM±ó¤§©ó¤£ÅU,ˤ£¦p·í¦¨¦³»ùȪº¾Ô³N°Q½×°ò¦ |
Darth Panda ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/27 20:40 | |
Re:°êxx¥v±Ð¨| | |
¦³¨Ç°ê¦@¾Ôª§¸ê®Æ¬O¾Ô³N°Q½×»ùȪº,§Ṳ́£§«³o¼Ë¨Ó¬Ý¾Ô¥v½sÄ¡¤Î°Oz¤§¼Ò¦¡¡A¦b¦³¨Ç¤å¤ÆÅé¨t¤¤©Ò¯à¬Ý¨ìªº¾Ô¥v¡A¹ï©ó³Ó§Q¤§¾Ô¥v¯u¬O¨®¸ü¤æ¶q¡A¤£¥i³Ó¼Æ¡F¥i¬O¹ï©ó¥´±Ñ¥MªºÀ˰Q¡A¥i´N¬OµÛ¾¥¬Æ¤Ö¡A¤×¨ä¬O¥´±Ñ¥Mªº±N»â¡AÁÙ´x±±µÛÅv¦ì®É¡A¼g³oºØ¥X¥L¬v¬Ûªº¾Ô¥v¡u¥´¤F±Ñ¥Mªº¤HÁÙ·|¦³¤°»ò´¼¼z¡H¡v³oºØ³Ó®Éx®vÅܦ¨½Ñ¸¯«G¡A±Ñ®É¿Ñ¤hÅܦ¨½Þ¤@¼Ë¡A®Ú¥»´N¬O¥H¦¨±Ñ½×^¶¯¡A¦Ó«D²z´¼ªº«ä¦Ò¤Î§PÂ_¡C¥i¬O§ÚÌ¥²¶·nª¾¹D¡A¥´±Ñ¥M¤@¤è©Ò¼¶¼gªºÀ˰Q³ø§i¡A©Î¬O¹³°}¤¤¤é»xµ¥ì©l¸ê®Æ¡A·|¤ñ³Ó§QªÌ©Ò¼¶¼gªº¦^¾Ð¿ý¤ÎÀ˰Q³ø§i§ó¨ã°Ñ¦Ò»ùÈ¡Cª¾¹D¬°¦ó·|¥¢±Ñ»·¤ñª¾¹D¬°¦ó·|Àò³Ó§ó¬°«n¡A¦]¬°³o¤@¦¸¤§©Ò¥H¯à°÷Àò³Óªº«ÈÆ[±ø¥ó¤Î¥~¦bÀô¹Ò¡A¤U¤@¦¸¥i¯à¤£´_¦s¦b¡F¥i¬O¤§©Ò¥H·|¨Ï¨ä¾DP±ÑÁZ¤§¤º³¡®zÂI¤Î¿ù»~¡A¥i¯à¤´µM·|¬O¤U¤@¦¸¾ÔºÝ¦A°_®ÉP©R¤§¯Ê¥¢¡C |
monk ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/28 01:58 | |
Re:°êxx¥v±Ð¨| | |
½Í¨ì¥_¥ï¡A§Ü¾ÔÁÙ¦³¶Ïꪺ¾ú¥v¡AÃø¹D¤j®a¨S¦³Â½¾\¹L¤j³°¡A¬ü°ê¡A¤é¥»»PĬÁpªº¸ê®Æ¶Ü¡H«ç»ò³£»P°ê¥ÁÄÒªº¥v®Æ¤£¦P©O¡H¥_¥ï¸Ì±©Ò¾xªº¯QÀs´N¤@¤j°ï¤F¡A¥]¬A±i¾Ç¨}ªF¥_©ö½oªº°ÝÃD¡A´N«D±`ȱoÃhºÃ¡An¬O·í®É±i¾Ç¨}¤£©ö½o¡A§Ú¤~¤£¬Û«H½±¥úÀY¯à°÷¡§²Î¤@¡¨¤¤°ê©O¡I¥t¥~¡A³Ìªñ¬Ý¨ì¤F½±½n°ê¥L̩窺¡e¤@¤oªe¤s¤@¤o¦å¡f¡A¸Ì±¤Þz¤F¤@¤j°ï°ê¥ÁÄÒ³æ¤è±¥v®Æ¡A°ê¥ÁÄҦѧL¡A¥H¤Î¤@¨Ç¤é¥»¦Ñ§L¡A¤]´N¬O¾Ô¤¤¬£¡AÁÙ¦³¿Ë°ê¥ÁÄÒªº¬üÄy¤h§L¡A¥]¬A´c¦W¬L¹üªºSACO¦Ñ§Lªº¸Ü»y¡AµLºÃ¬O©ç¨Óµ¹°ê¥ÁÄÒ¬F©²À¿§¾ªÑªº¡C²{¦b«o¦¨¬°¤F°êxx¥v±Ð¨|¤Þ¥Î³Ì¦hªºx¥v¬ö¿ý¤ù¡C²{¦bªº¤j³°¥v¾ÇªÌ¤]¬O¡A¬°¤F²Î¾Ô¡A«Ü¦h³£¶]¨ì°ê¥ÁÄÒ³oÃä¨Ó¡Aµ¹°ê¥ÁÄÒ§@©Ò¿×ªº¡§¥¤Ï¡¨¡A¦Û¥H¬°¦Û¤v¶i¨B¡A¦ý¬O«o¤£ª¾¹D¥xÆW²{¦b¦¤w¸g¥Á¥D¤Æ¡A½ÖÁÙ·|¥hÅ¥«H½±¤¶¥Ûªº¯«¸Ü¡H¤é¥»ªº¸ê®Æ§Ú¬O»{¬°¥i¥H¤Þ¥Î¡A¦ý¬O¤¤°ê¾Ô³õ³¡¤À¤]¦³²K¥[¤F¾Ô¤¤¬£ªº¥vÆ[¡A¦A¥[¤W°ê¨¾³¡©Ò½Ķªº¡e¤éx¹ïµØ§@¾Ô¬ön¡f¡A²K¥[¤F¬Fªv¦â±m¡A©Ò¥H§Ú»{¬°¡AÁÙ¬O¬ü°êªº¥v®Æ³Ì¨ã¦³»ùÈ¡C ¨ä¹ê¡A°ê¥ÁÄÒªº¤ä«ùªÌ¤j¦h±N¤¤¤é¾Ôª§Â\¦b¾Ô¥v³¡¤À¡A©Ò¿×ªº¤G¤Q¤G³õ·|¾Ô«ü«Y®³¥X¨Ó¹ï¤ñ¤§«á¡A¤£¦ý¤@ÂI¬ã¨s·N¸q³£¨S¦³¡A¦Ó¥B¥O¤Hı±oµL²á¡C¬ü°êª¾¦W¤¤°ê³q¶O¥¿²M´N»¡¹L¡A»P¨ä©ñ¦b³o¨ÇµL²áªº¾Ô¥v¬ã¨s¡A¤£¦p®³¨Ó¬ã¨s¤¤¤é¾Ô³õªº¬Fªv°ÝÃD»P¾Ô²¤¤ä´©°ÝÃD¡A¨º¤~¬O¤¤°ê¾Ô³õ³Ì¦³¬ã¨s»ùȪº¥DÃD¡C¨Æ¹ê¤W¡A¤é¥»ªº®ÑÄy¤]«Ü¤Ö´£¨ì³o¨Ç·|¾Ô¡A°£¤F©x¤èªº¡e¾Ô¥vÂO®Ñ¡f¤§¥~¡A¤]´N¥u¦³¨º»ò¤@¨â¥»¥Ñ¾Ô¤¤¬£¥Xª©Á¿¶D°ê¥ÁÄÒ¾Ô³õªº®ÑÄy¡C¥Ø«e¤é¥»©Ò¥XªºÃö©ó¤¤¤é¾Ôª§ªº®ÑÄy¡A°£¤F¥ª¬£©Ò¼gÃö©ó¤é¥»¼É¦æªº®ÑÄy¡A´N¬O³Ìªñ¡e¦Û¥Ñ¥D¸q¥vÆ[¡f¾ú¥vªº¬ÛÃö¥v¹ê¡C¾Ô¤¤¬£ªº®ÑÄy¤Ó°¾¦V°ê¥ÁÄÒ¥vÆ[¡A¥ªÁlªº¥vÆ[¤S¤Ó°¾¦V¦@²£ÄÒ¡A©Ò¥H¤p§Ì»{¬°¡A¡e¦Û¥Ñ¥D¸q¥vÆ[¡fªº®ÑÄy¤~¬O³Ì¨Î¬ã¨s¤¤¤é¾Ôª§ªº¥v®Æ¡C³o¨Ç®ÑÄy¤¤¡AÂI¯}¤F°ê¥ÁÄÒx¶¤¤£³ô¤@À»ªº¯«¸Ü¡C¤p§Ìı±o³Ì¥Í®ðªº¬O¡A·í¤p§ÌÆ[¬Ý¡e¤@¤oªe¤s¤@¤o¦å¡f®É¡A©~µM¦³¤H¬ü¤Æ¤F¶Àªe±¸´£¡A»¡¤°»ò¬O¡e°¶¤jªº¶Àªe¦A«×¬°¤F«O½Ã¦Û¤vªº«á¥N¦Óµo«ã¡f¡I¹ê¦b¬O´ò§è¡Iªø¨F¤j¤õ¥þ³¡±Àµ¹±i§Ó©¾¡A¦n¹³½±¤¶¥Û¤@ÂI³d¥ô³£¨S¦³¡CÃø¹D³o¨Ç´N¬O¥xÆW¤l§Ì§L©Ò¾\Ūªº¾ú¥v¶Ü¡H ¥t¥~¡A¹ï©ó¬üÄy±N»â¥v}«Â¡A¤]¬OºÉ±¡ªºÁà¤Æ¡A¹ê¦b¦³¤í¤½¥¡A²Ä¤@¦¸½q¨l§@¾Ôªº¹L¿ù¥þ³¡±Àµ¹¤F^°ê¤H»P¬ü°ê¤H¡C¦Ñ¹ê»¡¡A¹ï©ó°êx²{¥N¤Æªº¥\³Ò¡A¬O¨S¦³¤H¯à°÷¸ò¥v}«Â¤ñªº¡A§Ú¥H«e·í§L®É¡A´N¨p©³¤U»{¬°À³¸Ó§â¥v}«Âªº·Ó¤ù¶K¤Wx¥vÀ]¨ú¥N½±¥úÀYªº¡C¨Æ¹ê¤W¡A´N¦p¥v}«Â©Ò»¡ªº¡A°ê¥ÁÄÒ®Ú¥»¨S¦³§Ü¤°»ò¤é¡A¥u¦³¦b·Ç³Æ¤º¾Ô¥´¦@²£ÄÒ¦Ó¤w¡An¤£µM«ç»ò·ùx¦b¤Ï§ð®É¡A°ê¥ÁÄÒx¥¿¦b¼ì±Ñ¡H¦Ó¥B¹ï©ó¦@²£ÄÒ¡A°ê¥ÁÄÒ¥v®Æ¤]½T¹ê¨è·NÁà¤Æ¡AÁöµM§Ú«Ü°Q¹½¤µ¤Ñªº¤¤°ê¼É¬F¡A¦ý¬O¹L¥h¦@²£ÄÒ¥H´åÀ»¾Ô³N¹ï§Ü¤éxªº¥v®Æ¡AÃø¹D¤£È±o°êx¤µ¤éªº¾Ç²ß¶Ü¡H¤j³°ªº¥ª¬£ºô¤Í³ÌªñÁnµ¶V¨Ó¶V¤p¡A¤]µLªk¦b¬°¥LÌ·íªì^«i§Ü¤éªº¥vÂÝÅGÅ@¡C¦Ñ¹ê»¡¡AŪ¹L¤ò¿AªFªº®Ñ¤§«á¡AÁöµM¥L¬O¼Ä¤Hªº¯«¥DµP¡A¤£¹L¤]½T¹ê¬O¤@¦ì°¶¤jªº¾Ô²¤®a¡C¤£¹L°ê¥ÁÄÒ«o¬O¡§½Í¤ò¦âÅÜ¡¨¡A¤£´±¥¿µø¦Û¤v¾Ô±Ñªº¨Æ¹ê¡I³Ìªñ¡A¨ºÓÀ°·sÄÒ¿ï¹´°È©eû¥¢±Ñªº¾G®ö¥¥Xª©ªº¡e²Ä¤G¦¸¤¤¤é¾Ôª§¥v¡f§ó¬O¯îÁ[¤£³ô¡AÁ`¤§¤@¥y¸Ü¡A³£¬O®{¤l®{®]¥Î¨ÓÅGÅ@ªº¡C½±¤¶¥Û¦³§Ü¹L¤°»ò¤é¡H¬ü°ê°Ñ¾Ô¤§«á¡A¥L¦´N¦b¨p©³¤U¤Äµ²¤é¥»·Ç³Æ¶Ï¦@¤F¡I¥H¤U©Ò»¡¥þ¬O¨Æ¹ê¡A¤é¥»¸¾÷ÅF¬µ´ò¥_¾÷³õ¡A¬ü°ê¸¦æû°_¸À³¾Ô¡A¦ý¬O°êx²Ä¤Q¤@¤j¶¤¸¦æû»P¦a±¯¥§L«o»¡¡G§Ṳ́£·Q·S¤é¥»¥Í®ð¡A³y¦¨¥L̳ø´_µ¹¤©§Úx§ó¤j¶Ë®`¡I ³o´N¬O°ê¥ÁÄÒ¥vÆ[ªº±Ð¨|¡A»¡¤°»ò^«i§Ü¾Ô¡A¾ãÓ¤K¦~®Ú¥»´N¬O¦bºM°h¡A¨S¦³¬ü°ê°Ñ¾Ô¡A½Öª¾¹D¤¤°ê¯à¤£¯à¼µ¤U¥h¡I¦Ñ¹ê»¡¡A¤j³°¹L¥hªº¥vÆ[§ÚÁÙ»{¬°¤ñ¸û¥i«H¡A²{¦b¤]¦b¨ºÃäÆg´°ê¥ÁÄÒ¡A¤£ª¾¹D¥L̬O¤£¬OÀY´ßªü·f°¨ªÅ©T¤O¡HÃø¹D¬°¤F²Î¾Ô»P¤Äµ²ªxÂŪº¡A³s¦Û¤v¹L¥hªº°í«ù³£¯à©ñ±ó¡A³oºØ¤¤°êªº¬F«È¦æ¬°¡A¥O¤H·P¨ì¤ß´H¡I¥t¥~¡A¹ï©óº¡¬w°ê»P¨L°°¡AµL½×°ê¥ÁÄÒ»P¦@²£ÄÒ¤@«ß¥[¤W°°¦r¡A¤]´N¹ê¦b¬O¤Ó¹L¤À¤F¡C¨Æ¹ê¤W¡A¨Lºë½Ã¬F©²ªº®üx«Ø³]¨ì¸gÀ٫س]¡A³£¬O«¼yµLªk¤ñ¸ûªº¡A·íªì«n¨Ê¬F©²²Îªv°Ï°ì¡A®Ú¥»´N¬O¤@¤ù¿³·s¦Vºa¡A¦Ó¥B¨Lºë½Ãªº¬F©²x¶¤¡A¤]½T¹ê¬Oªý¤î¤F«Ü¦h¤éxªº¼É¦æ¡A¦ý¬O°ê¥ÁÄұЬì®Ñ¤W«o§â¨Lºë½Ã½|±o¤@¤å¤£È¡C¦Ñ¹ê»¡¡A¨Lºë½Ã¥h§ë¤é¡A²Õ´°°x¡AÁÙ¤£¬O½±¥úÀY¬°¤F¹ï¥I¦@²£ÄÒªº³±¿Ñ¡HÁ`¤§¡A¤j®a°Ñ¦Ò¦Û¥Ñ¥D¸q¥vÆ[ªº®ÑÄy´N¥i¥H¤F¡C¦Ñ¹ê»¡¡A¥xÆW¦Û¥Ñ¥D¸q¥vÆ[ªº®ÑÄy¤£¦h¡A§Ú±ÀÂ˶À¤å¶¯ªº¡e¤é¤¤¾Ôª§¡f»P¡e¤é¥»¦p¦ó½l³y¤¤µØ¥Á°ê¡f¡I¯uªºº¡´Á«Ý³o¨â¥»®Ñ¯à¦¨¬°°êx¥¼¨Ó¥Î¨Ó»P¹L¥h¥v®Æ¤¬¬Û¹ï¤ñªº±Ð¬ì®Ñ¡C ¥t¥~¡A¤]§Æ±æx¤è¦ÂI½Ķ¤é¥»¾Ô¥vÂO®Ñ¥Xª©Ãö©ó¥xÆW§@¾Ôªº¥v®Æ¡A¨Ã¥B¦h§@¤@¨Ç¤éx¦b¥xÆW®É´Á°ê¨¾«Ø³]ªº¸ê®Æ¬ã¨s¡C³o¨Ç®ÑÄy¡A¬Û«H¹ï©ó¥xÆWªºx¥v±Ð¨|³£¬O«Ü¦³·N¸qªº¡I§Ú«D±`¦P·N¦U¦ìªº¬Ýªk¡A°êxªºx¥v±Ð¨|n¦³À˰Q¡I§Æ±æ³o¨ÇªºÂ½Ä¶¡A¤£n¦A°Ñ¤J¬Fªv«¬ºA¤F¡I |
BWS ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/28 04:02 | |
Re:°êxx¥v±Ð¨| | |
¡» ¶À¤å¶¯ ¥xÆW¿W¥ß«Ø°êÁp·ùªº»¡«È ¿E¯P«¬¥xÆW¿W¥ß¹B°Ê°õ¦æªÌ(»P¾G¦Û¤~¦P·t±þ½±¸g°ê) ¨ü¤é¥»60¦~¥N¥ª¬£°¾¿E«ä¼é¼vÅT»á²` ³o¥s°µ¤£°Ñ¤J¬Fªv§ÎºA? |
Monk ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/28 05:10 | |
Re:°êxx¥v±Ð¨| | |
There are two ¶À¤å¶¯! I am talking about another ¶À¤å¶¯ living in Japan now, and he is a great historian! |
Monk ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/28 05:21 | |
Re:°êxx¥v±Ð¨| | |
ºq¹|½±¤¶¥Û¤Ò¤H§º¬üÄÖªº¤H³£¥H½±¤Ò¤H¦b²Ä¤G¦¸¤¤¤é¾Ôª§´Á¶¡¡A«Ø³]ªÅx¡A¨Ã¥B¹ï§Ü¤é¥»«I²¤ªº°^Äm¡Cº¥ý¡A§Ú¤jÁxªº´£¥X³oÓ°ÝÃD¡A¨º´N¬O²Ä¤G¦¸¥@¬É¤j¾Ô®É´Á¡A¥xÆW¨ì©³¬O³B©ó¤°»ò¼Ëªº¦a¦ì¡H¥unŪ¹L¾ú¥vªº³£ª¾¹D¡A¥xÆW·í®É¬OÄÝ©ó¤j¤é¥»«Ò°êªº´Þ¥Á¦a¡A©Ò¥H§º¬üÄÖ¦b¤j³°«Ø³]¤¤°êªÅx¡A¤S»P¥xÆW¦ó¥Ì¡H·í®É¡A¥xÆW©ú©ú¬O³B©ó¤é¥»ªººÞ¨î¤§¤U¡A¬OÄÝ©ó¤é¥»»â¤g¡A¦Ó·í®Éªº¥x¥_ªQ¤s¾÷³õ¡A§ó¬O¤é¥»®üx³À«Î¯èªÅ¶¤¥Î¨Ó§ðÀ»¤¤°ê¤j³°ªº°ò¦a¤§¤@¡C¥]¬A°ê¥ÁÄÒ¥bÓ¥@¬ö¥H¨Ó¤@ª½§j¼Nªº¡§¤K¤@¥|¡¨ªÅ¾Ô¡A´N¬O¥Ñ¥xÆWªQ¤s°ò¦a°_¸ªº³À«Î¯èªÅ¶¤©Ò°õ¦æªº¡A·í®É©Ò¬£¥Xªº«K¬O¤E¤»¦¡³°¤W§ðÀ»¾÷¤Q¤K¬[¤À¨â§åªÅŧ¼s¼w»PªC¦{¡C°£¤F¥x¥_ªQ¤s°ò¦a¥~¡A©£¤s°ò¦a¤]¬O¤é¥»«Ò°ê®üx¥Î©óªÅŧµØ«nªº°ò¦a¡C¦Ó¥L̪º¹ï¤â¡A¥¿¬O§º¬üÄÖ©Ò¤@¤â®â°öªº¤¤°êªÅx¡C¥Ñ¦¹ªº¤¶²Ð¡A¤j®aÀ³¸Ó«Ü©úÅ㪾¹D§Ú¦A»¡¤°»ò¤F¡A¨º´N¬O¡A·í®Éªº¤¤°êªÅxºâ¬OÄÝ©ó¥xÆWªº¼Ä¤H¡A¦Ó«D¥xÆW¦Û¤vªºªÅx¡A©Ò¥H³o¤ä¥Ñ§º¬üÄÖ¤@¤â³Ð«ØªºªÅx¡AµL½×¦p¦ó¤]»P¤µ¤éªº¥xÆW¨S¦³Ãö«Y¡A¦Ó¬O¤@¤äÄҰꤣ¤Àªº³¡¶¤¡A¬°¤F½±¤¶¥Ûªº¤@¤v¤§¨p®Ä©¾¡A·íµM¬OÄÝ©ó¤é¥»¥H¤Î¤é¥»²Îªv¤Uªº¥xÆW¤H¥Áªº¼Ä¤H¡C©Ò¥H¡A½±¤Ò¤H§º¬üÄ֨쩳¬O¡§¤¤°êªÅx¤§¥À¡¨ÁÙ¬O¡§¥xÆWªÅx¤§¥À¡¨¡A´N¬O¤@Ó°ÝÃD¡A¦pªG¦o¬O¤¤°êªÅx¤§¥À¡A¨ºµLºÃ¥xÆWªº¤¤µØ¥Á°êªÅx¦Û»{¬OÄݩ󤤰ꪺªÅx¡A¨º»ò¤¤°ê¤H¥Á¸Ñ©ñxªÅx¥´¨Ó®É¡A¤£ª¾¹D³o¤ä³¡¶¤¬O§_·|±¼Âàºj¤f¥´¥xÆW¤H¡H¦pªG¦Û»{¬O¥xÆWªÅx¡A½Ð¥ß§YºJ²M»P½±§º¬üÄÖªºÃö«Y¡I |
³·· ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/28 06:12 | |
Re:°êxx¥v±Ð¨| | |
>>¦pªG¦Û»{¬O¥xÆWªÅx¡A½Ð¥ß§YºJ²M»P½±§º¬üÄÖªºÃö«Y¡I ¨Ì¥Ø«e¥xÆW·NÃѪº¶i®i³t«×¡A°ê¥ÁÄÒªº½±¤ó¯«¥DµP¿ð¦¬O·|³Q©î±¼¡An°µ¨ì¨º¸Ìªº¦a¨B¡A¥u¬O®É¶¡°ÝÃD½}¤F¡C¦ý½Ð§â¥xÆW·NÃÑ©M¿Ë¤é¥D±in¤À²M·¡¡A¿Ë¤é¥D±i¤£¬O¥xÆW·NÃѪº¶D¨D¡C ¦¹¶À¤å¶¯«D©¼¶À¤å¶¯ ¶À¤å¶¯ |
ra ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/28 10:29 | |
Re:°êxx¥v±Ð¨| | |
>>>©Ò¿×ªº¤G¤Q¤G³õ·|¾Ô«ü«Y®³¥X¨Ó¹ï¤ñ¤§«á¡A¤£¦ý¤@ÂI¬ã¨s·N¸q³£¨S¦³¡A¦Ó¥B¥O¤Hı±oµL²á §A¯à¤£¯à¤£¬ã¨sÁ{§É¯f¾ú´Nª½±µ±q¯f²z¾Çªº«e´£¤U¹ï¤@ºØ¯e¯f´£¥X¬ã¨s¦¨ªG¡H¡H¾Ô¥v¥»¨Ó´N±qÄÝ©ó¾ú¥vªº¤@³¡¤À¡A¤£¯à±j¦æéÂ÷¡A§An½Í¾Ô²¤©M¬F²¤¡A²æÂ÷¤F°ê®a¹ê¤Oªº¨ãÅé¤ÀªR³¡¤À¡A¨º麽±qþùؽͩO¡H§ÚˬOı±o©Ò¿×ªº¾Ô²¤¤ä´©Ë«ÜÃø¦³«õ±¸ªºªÅ¶¡ ¡r¡r¡r¦ý¬O¹L¥h¦@²£ÄÒ¥H´åÀ»¾Ô³N¹ï§Ü¤éxªº¥v®Æ¡AÃø¹D¤£È±o°êx¤µ¤éªº¾Ç²ß¶Ü¡H ¦pªG¥¿³W¾Ô³õ¤£È±o«µø¡A¼Ä«á¾Ô³õ¦P¼Ë¤£È±o¡I ¤¤°ê¡A¤D¦Ü¥þ¥@¬Éªº¹CÀ»¾Ô¥»¨Ó´N¤£À³¸Ó³Q¯«¸Ü¡A¹CÀ»¾Ônµo´§§@¥Î¡A¥²¶·¦³¤@Ó±j¤jªº¥¿±¾Ô³õ¬°°ò¦¡A¶È¶È¨Ì¾a¹CÀ»¾Ô¬Oµ´¹ï¤£¥i¯àűo¤@³õ¾Ôª§ªº¡A¨Æ¹ê¤W»ý¥¿±¾Ô³õ¡]¥]¬A¤Ó¥¬v¤è¦Vªº§@¾Ô¡^¾D¨ì®À§éªº±¡ªp¤U¡A¹CÀ»¾Ô´N·|Âà¤J§C¼é¡]¤Ó¥¬v¾Ôª§Ãzµo¦Z¤éx¹ï¦@²£ÄÒ´åÀ»°Ï¶i¦æ¤F«D±`´Ý»Åªº¤¤@¤j±½¿º¡A«³Ð¤F¤K¸ôx«ü´§¾÷Ãö©M¦a¤è¬FÅv¡^¡A»\¦]¹CÀ»¾Ô¤£¬O¬y«§@¾Ô¡A¦P¼Ë¦³©ö¨ü¥´À»ªº°ò¦a©M¨ÑÀ³綫¡A¯S§O¤j½d³ò¤j³W¼Òªº¹CÀ»§@¾Ô¡A¥²µM¦³¬Û·í³W¼Òªº¼Ä«á®Ú¾Ú¦a©M¼Ä«á¦a¤è¬FÅv§@爲¤ä¼µ¡A³o´N·N¨ýµÛ爲¤F½T«O³o¨Ç¨ÑÀ³ÂI©M¬FªvÅé¨t¤£¾D¨ìÄè·À¡A¥²µM·|µo¥Í¤@©w³W¼Òªº¥¿³W¾Ô¡A¦Ó¦pªG¨S¦³«Ø³]°_¤@¥u¥i¥H¸g¨ü°ª±j«×¥¿³W§@¾Ôªºx¶¤¡A¹CÀ»§@¾Ôªº³W¼Ò´N·|©l²×¨î¦b¤@ӫܧCªº¤ô¥¡C ¹CÀ»§@¾Ô¦³¨âÓ¯«¸Ü¡G1¡B§C¯P«×§C®ø¯Óªº¹CÀ»¥i¥H¦b¤@ӫܪøªº®É¶¡内®ø·À¼Ä¤H¥iÆ[ªº¦³¥Í§Lû©M§Þ³N¸Ë³Æ¡A³Ì²×¨Ï¹ï¤è¥I¥X«¤jªº¥N»ù¡A¶i¦Ó¨Ï¨ä°h¥X¾Ôª§¡F2¡B¹CÀ»§@¾Ô¥i¥HÁ×§K¥¿³W§@¾Ô¨ººØ´Ý»Åªº¹ê¤O¹ï¤ñ¡A§Q¥Î§Ú¤èªº¤@¨t¦C内綫§@¾ÔÀu¶Õ³v¨B¥Ë¸Ñ¼Ä¤èªºx¨Æ¥´À»¡]µo®i¨ì¤µ¤Ñ¤]´N¬O©Ò¿×ªº¤£¹ïºÙ§@¾Ô¡^¡A©Ò¥H¹CÀ»¾Ô¥i¥H§¹¥þÁ×§K©ÎªÌ°ò¥»Á×§K¼@¯P®ø¯Óªº¥¿³W§@¾Ô©Ò»Ýª«½è©M§Þ³N°ò¦ªº¡C²Ä¤G±ø§Ú´N¤£»¡¤F¡A«e±§Ú»¡¹L¹CÀ»¾Ô¦pªG²æÂ÷¤F¥¿³W¾Ô³õ©t¥ßªº¬Ý¥Lªºµo®i¬O¤£¦X²zªº¡A¦Ó¥B§Y¨Ï¥HÀRºAªºÆ[ÂI¬Ý¡A¹CÀ»¾Ô©M¥¿³W¾Ô¤]¬O¬Û¤¬¥æ¤eªº¡A©Ò¥H³Ì²×§ÚÌÁÙ¬On¦^¨ìª«½è©M§Þ³Nª½±µ¹ï¤ñªº¥¿³W§@¾Ô¤¤¥h¨ú¨M¤@³õ¾Ôª§ªº³Ót¡C²Ä¤@ÂI¦pªG§Ṳ́£¦Ò¼{űo¤@³õ¾Ôª§ªº®Ú¥»¥Øªº¡A¦ü¥G¬O¦¨¥ßªº¡A¤@¨t¦Cµu«P¹s´²¤¬¤£Áp«Yªº¾Ô°«½T¹ê¥i¥H¦bÅý¤@¥u«D¥¿³Wªº¡A¯Ê¥F¥²n¤õ¤O©M§Þ³N¤ä´©ªº«D¥¿³Wx¶¤¦b¤@ӫܪøªº®É¶¡¡A¦b«Ü¼sªxªº°Ï°ì内¨ú±oÁ`¶q«ÈÆ[ªº¾ÔªG¡A¦ý¬O§ÚÌ¥²¶·»{ÃÑ¨ì®ø·À¼Ä¤è¦³¥Í§Lû¤£¬O¥Øªº¡A¥Øªº¬O³Ì²×űo¾Ôª§¡A©ÎªÌ»¡±N¼Ä¤Hªºx¨Æ¦s¦b±q¬Y¤@Ó¦a°Ï²M°£±¼¡A¦Ü¤ÖÅý¥Lªºx¨Æ¦s¦b¤£¯àµo´§¬Fªv·N¸q¡A³o´N¥²¶·³q¹L¦bµu®É¶¡内¦b¬YÓ¯SÂIªº¦aÂI¤j¶q®ø¯Ó¼Ä¤è¦³¥Í§Lû©M§Þ³N§L¾¹¡AÅý¹ï¤è¥X²{µLªk×´_ºû«ù¾Ô綫ªº¾Ô°«¤OªÅ¥Õ¡A©Ò¥H¤£±o¤£±q¥L©Ò¦û¾Úªº¦a°ÏºM¥Xx¨Æ¦s¦b¨Ó¹F¦¨¡An¨ì¨ì³o¤@¥Øªº¡A°ß¤@ªº³~®|´N¬O³q¹L°ª¯P«×°ª®ø¯Óªº¥¿³W§@¾Ô¦b«Üµu®É¶¡内±N¼Ä¤Hªºx¨Æ«§L¶°¹Î³òÄè¨Ã¹Ü¨ú¨ä©Ò±±¨î¦a²z¾Ô²¤nÂI¡A¦pªG©l²×Åý¼Ä¤H³B©ó¤@Ó§C¤ô¥®ø¯Óªº¹Lµ{¤¤¡A¥L¥i¥H»´©öªº¸É¥R×´_¦Û¤vªº¾Ô°«¤O¨Ã¥B©l²×ºû«ù¨ä¦b¬Y¤@«ÂI¦a°Ïªºx¨Æ¦s¦b¡A¶i¦Óµo´§¨ä¬Fªv¼vÅT¡A¦pªGn¥Î³oºØ®ø¯Ó¾Ô¨ÓÅý¹ï¤è°h¥X¾Ôª§¡AÁÙ¬O¥²¶·ÁÙì¨ìì¨Óªº°ò¦±ø¥ó¡G¹ï¤è¥²µM¦P®É±¹ï¤@өΪÌY¤zÓ¥¿±¾Ô³õ¡]«ÈÆ[¤W¦s¦b±j¤jªºx¨Æ«Â¯Ù¡^¡A©óÀ³¥I©M·Ç³Æ¥¿±¾Ô³õªº¥¨¤j®ø¯Ó¡A¼Ä¤è¤£¯àµL¨îªº¤À´²®ø¯Ó¦Û¤vªº§Lû¾¹§÷¡A¤]¤£¯à¥H¶°¤¤¨¬°÷±j¤jªºx¨Æ¤O¶q¹ï´åÀ»°Ï¶i¦æ¹ý©³ªºx¨Æ¥´À»¡A¦Ó¥B¤v¤è¦b´åÀ»°Ïªº¬¡°Ê¥i¥HÀò±o´¶¹Mªº¦P±¡»P¤ä«ù¡A¦b¤H¤Oª«¤O¤W¥I¥X¿¤_¹ï¤èªº®ø¯Ó¦Ó¤£¦Ü©ó¥¢¥h¾Ô°«¤O¡A¯Ê¥F³o¤@°ò¦¨Ó¶i¦æ¹CÀ»¾Ô¡A¨º¥²µM¬O¦Û´M¦º¸ô¡A±q«n«Dªº¥¬º¸ÃM§L¨ìªF¥_ªº§Ü¤éÁpx¡A¥L̳£¦]爲¨S¦³¤@Ó¨¬°÷±j¤jªº¥¿±¾Ô³õ©ÎªÌ¬Fªv«Â¯Ù§@爲°t¦X¡A¨S¦³¿ìªkÁ×§K¹ï¤è¶°¤¤x¨Æ¤O¶q¹ï¦Û¤v¶i¦æ³sÄò¤£¶¡Â_ªº¥´À»¡AµLªk±q¬Fªv¤W«Ø¥ßéw¥B²Õ´¤Æªº¤ä´©Åé¨t¥HÀò±o¥²nªºª«¸ê¤Hû¨ÑÀ³¡A³Ì²×¹ý©³¥¢±Ñ¡A¯S§O¬O¤¤¦@¦b§Ü¤é¾Ôª§®É´Áªº¹CÀ»§@¾Ô¨ã¦³«Ü¤jªº¬Fªv·N¹Ï¡A«Ø¥ß´åÀ»°Ïªº®Ú¥»¥Øªº¬O«Ø¥ß©M¾d©T¦a¤è¬FÅv¡A³o¤@¬FÅv¤£¶Èn¬°¼Ä«áªZ¸ËÀò±oéwªº¬Fªv«O»Ù¡AÁÙn¬°¥¼¨Óªº°ê¦@¼É¤O¬Fªv°«ª§´£¨Ñ¥²nªº¹wµo®iªº¦a²zªÅ¶¡¡Aª«½è°ò¦©M²Õ´«Ø³]¡A爲¤F§Ü¤é¦Ó§Ü¤éªº¸Ü¡A¤¤¦@¦b1943¦~´N·|¥´±o¥þxÂШS §Ú¬O¬Ý¤£¥X³oºØ¾ú¥vªº¾Ç²ß±qª½±µªºÉŲ§@¥Î¤¤¨ì©³þùؤñ¥¿³W¾Ôªº¾ú¥v©Ò´£¨Ñªº§ó¤j¡A±q²{¹êªº¨¤«×»¡»OÆW¤£À³¸Ó§ó¥[¤£»Ýn¥Î¥N»ùºG«¦Ó¥B¨S¦³ª½±µ«O»Ù¡]°ò¥»¤Wµ´¹ï¹CÀ»¾Ô¹ï¤@³õ¾Ôª§ªºµ²§½¯àµo´§¤j¦h§@¥Îªº¡A¤£¬O¹CÀ»¾Ô¥»¨¡A¦Ó¬O¹CÀ»¾Ô©Ò¨Ìªþªº«ÈÆ[Àô¹Ò¡^ªº¹CÀ»¾Ô¨ÓºûÅ@¦Û¤vªº°ê®a¦w¥þ¡An±À±R¦@²£ÄÒ¨Ó¶S§C°ê¥ÁÄÒ¡A¨º¬O½t¤ì¨D³½¡A³o¨âÓ¬O¤@¹ï¤£¥i¤À³ÎªºÃø¥SÃø§Ì¡AÁöµM©¼¦¹¬Ý¤£¶¶²´¡A¦ý¬O¦b·í®ÉªºÀô¹Ò¤U½Ö¤]¨S¿ìªkÂ÷¶}½Ö¦Ó©t¥ß¦s¦b¨Ãµo´§§@¥Î¡A¦nÃa³£¬OÁp«Y¦b¤@°_ªº |
®ÇÆ[ªÌ2 ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/28 11:00 | |
Re:°êxx¥v±Ð¨| | |
>>¦ý¬O«o¤£ª¾¹D¥xÆW²{¦b¦¤w¸g¥Á¥D¤Æ¡A½ÖÁÙ·|¥hÅ¥«H½±¤¶¥Ûªº¯«¸Ü ³oÂI §Ú»{¬°¶À¤¯¦t¥ý¥Í»¡ªº³Ì¦n ¤j·N¬O»¡ ¤¤¤é¾Ôª§ ¥»¨Ó¤¤°ê³Ó§Q¾÷·|¤£¤j ¦Ñ½±n½ä¤@§â «á¨Ó¦]½t»Ú·|ŤF³o¥M ¦ý¦pªG¤£¬O¥L¦³³oºØºë¯« ¤¤°ê¤j·§¬O¿é©w¤F >>©Ò¥H³o¤ä¥Ñ§º¬üÄÖ¤@¤â³Ð«ØªºªÅx¡AµL½×¦p¦ó¤]»P¤µ¤éªº¥xÆW¨S¦³Ãö«Y¡A¦Ó¬O¤@¤äÄҰꤣ¤Àªº |
ra ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/28 11:01 | |
Re:°êxx¥v±Ð¨| | |
>>>·íµM¬OÄÝ©ó¤é¥»¥H¤Î¤é¥»²Îªv¤Uªº¥xÆW¤H¥Áªº¼Ä¤H¡C ¨º麽²z½×¤W¬ü§Q°í¦X衆°ê¬O¤é¥»«Ò°ê³Ì¥i´cªº¼Ä¤H¡A¬OºR·´¤é¥»«Ò°êªº¸o»íº×º¡A¦b¾Ô¥v±Ð¨|¤¤n¤£n±j½Õ³B©ó¨È¬w´Þ¥ÁªÌ¦a¦ìªº^¦Ì°¤l²Õ«ØABCD¥]³ò°é¢¨Ï¯«°ê¤é¥»¤£±o¤£¾Ôªº´d«s¡H»OÆW¦]爲¯S®íªº¾ú¥vÀô¹Ò¥»¨Ó´N§¨¦b¤@Ó«ÜÀª§¼ªº³B¹Ò¡A²{¦b·¥¤OÁ×§K§â¦Û¤v©M¤é¥»ªº¬Fªv§@¥Î¬E鈎ÁÙ¨Ó¤£¤Î¡A«ç麽¦Û¤v©¹¤W¾a©O¡HÃþ¦üªºÁÙ¦³¤@Ó®õ°ê¡A¥¦¤ñ»OÆW¥i¬¡ÅD¦h¤F¡A®õ¤ý°ê¬Ó®a®üªÅx¬Æ¦Üª½±µ©M¾n¶VªkxÎM¤ú«¨¼Lªº·F¤F¤@¬[¡]·íµM³Q¤H®a¥´±o¸¨ªá¬y¤ô¡^¡A§A¬Ý¬Ý¥L²{¦b·|¤£·|§â³o¤@¬q¾ú¥v·í¦¨¦Û¤v¦b¤G¦¸¤j¾Ô¤¤µo´§ªº§@¥Î¨Ó¶i¦æ«Å¶Ç¡H³oÂ\©ú¤F¬O§â«Ë¬Ö¤l©¹¦Û¤vÀY¤W¦©ªº¨Æ±¡¡A®õ°ê¤£Äø¥L¤~¤£§\Án¡C®õ°ê¬O¤j¤é¥»«Ò°êªº·ù¤Í¡A¥L³£¤£Ä@·N¦b¾ú¥v¤W§â¦Û¤v©w¦ì¦¨¤é¥»¤G¦¸¤j¾Ô¦a°ÏÂX±iªº¨ó§@ªÌ¡]®õ°êˬO¤Ï¹L¨Ó«Å¶Ç¦Û¤v¬O¤é¥»¶i¦æ¤j¾Ôªº¨ü®`ªÌ¡^¡A»OÆW¤£¹L¬O¤j¤é¥»«Ò°êªº¤@³¡¤À¡A®Ú¥»³£½Í¤£¤W¦³¤°麽¥DÆ[¿ï¾Üªº¾l¦a´N±²¤J¤F¾Ôª§¡A³oºØ±¡ªp¦³¤°麽¥²n§â¦Û¤v¯¸¥X¨Ó±j½Õ¦Û¤v¦b¾Ôª§¤¤©Ò³Bªº¦a¦ì¥H¤Î©M²{¹ê¬Fªv¬E鈎ªº¥¿·í©Ê¡H®`©È¦Û¤v©M¬ü°êÃö«Y¤Ó±µªñ¡HÁÙ¬O®`©È¦Û¤v¦b¤@³õ³Q©w¸q¬°´c©Ê¦a°Ï¬FªvÂX±iªº¾Ôª§¤¤¦a¦ì¤Ó¥¿½T¡H¡H¦b®õ°ê¤H¨S¦³Äø¨ì¬ö©À®õ¤é¤§¶¡¥ÎÂA¦å¾®µ²ªº¥S§Ì¤Í½Ë¤§«e¡A»OÆW¤]¥Ç¤£¤W§â¦Û¤v·í¦¨¤j¤é¥»«Ò°êªº¤@¤À¤l¨Ó«ÅºÙ¦Û¤v¦b¤j¾Ô¤¤ªº¦a¦ì ¦b¤£§ïÅܥثe¹ï¤Ó¥¬v/¤jªF¨È¾Ôª§ªº©w©Ê©w¦ì¤§«e¡]¦pªG¦³¤@¤Ñ¤jªF¨È¾Ôª§¯uªº³Q½®×¦¨¥\¡AÅܦ¨¤F¨È¬w¥Á±Ú¿W¥ß¸Ñ©ñªº¯«¸t¦Û¥Ñ¤§¾Ô¡A¨º¬O¥t¥~¤@¦^¨Æ¡A¦ôp¨º®ÉÔ®õ°ê¤]·|¦£¤£¡ªº¸õ¥X¨Ó¤jÁn¦Û©Ô¦Û°Û¦Û¤v¬°¨È¬w¥Á±Ú¿W¥ß¥I¥X¤F¦h麽°ª¶QªºÄ묹¡^¡A»OÆW®Ú¥»§ä¤£¨ì§â¦Û¤vªº¬Fªv©w¦ì±q³Q°Ê¨ü®`ªÌ¦V¥D°Ê¥[®`ªÌ¹L´çªº¥²n¡A¦Û¥Ñ¥vÆ[n·d¤jªF¨È¾Ôª§°ÝÃDªº©w©Ê¬ã¨s¡A«Ü¦n¡A§A§@爲¤@Ó¾ú¥v·R¦nªÌ¡]©ÎªÌ±q·~ªÌ¡^n¥[¤J¶i¥h¡A¤]«Ü¦n¡A¦ý¬O§An§ïÅܾú¥v¤W»OÆWªº¬Fªv¦a¦ì¥H¤Î¦b³oÓ¦a¦ì¤U¥L©Òµo´§ªº§@¥Î¡AÁÙn§â³oºØ§@¥Î±À¼s¨ì²{¹ê¬Fªv¤¤ªº¤@¨Ç¾ú¥v©µ¦ù³¡¤À¡A¨º´Nn·í¤ß¦A·í¤ß¤F¡A³oºØ°ÝÃD¤£¬O¾Ç³N¤W¦¨¥ß¬Fªv¤W´N¦¨¥ßªº¡A¦óªp©Ò¿×¾Ç³N¦¨¥ß¥»¨ÁÙ¦³ºÃÂI©O¡H¦b¤é¥»³£«÷©R¼Ò½k¾Ôª§¾ú¥v¹ï²{¹ê¬Fªv¼vÅTªº«e´£¤U¡A·d»OÆW¦Û¤vªº¾Ôª§¦a¦ì¦A»{Ãѳ̦n¶È©ó¾Ç³N¤£¯A¤Î²{¹ê¬Fªv ¡r¡r¡r¦Ñ¹ê»¡¡A¨Lºë½Ã¥h§ë¤é¡A²Õ´°°x¡AÁÙ¤£¬O½±¥úÀY¬°¤F¹ï¥I¦@²£ÄÒªº³±¿Ñ¡H 聼§A³o麽»¡§õ¥@¸s¡A©P¦ò®ü¡A¤ý¥ü»Ê¡A¼ïº~¦~¥|Ó¤H¤@©w¤£ª¾¹DÀ³¸Ó»¡¤°麽¦n¡A¨L¥ý¥Í§ë¤é¤w¸g«ÜÀ¸¼@¤Æ¤F¡A§A¦Aºtö¤U¥h§ÚÌ¥i¥H©ç«n®±¥_»L®]¤¤¤s2¤§¥ü»Ê°l¤é¤F¡A³oºØ°ÝÃD´N¬O·í¨Æ¤H¦Û¤v³£¤£´±¤@¨¥¥H½ª¤§¡A»Õ¤U¦ó¬G°µ鉄¾¦è¤úª¬¡K¡K¡K¡K¡K¡K¡K¡K |
µæ³¾ R ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/28 12:54 | |
Re:°êxx¥v±Ð¨| | |
«ezµo¨¥½Ñ§g¬Ò¾Ç´I¤¨®, ¤Þ¸g¾Ú¨å¨¥¤§¦¨²z. ¤p§Ì¤æÁx¦b¦¹µo¨¥, ªí¹F¤@¤UÓ¤H¬Ýªk. §Ú¥H¬°¤µ¤Ñn°Q½×x¥v±Ð¨|, ¤£¥²µMn±N§Ü¾Ô¥_¥ï¾Ô¥v²¾°£. ¥H¶À¤¯¦t¥ý¥Í¦¡ªº¼g¥vªk¨Ó§ï¼g³o¬q¾ú¥v¥i¯à·|¤ñ¸û¦n. §ÚÓ¤Hı±o³o¥ó¨Æ±¡¬O¤ñ¸û«nªº PS. ¤@ÂI¤p¤pµêºa, ¯à¦b RA ¦³°Ñ»Pªº°Q½×¤¤°Ñ¤@¸}, µæ³¾R «D±`¶}¤ß~~ m(_ _)m |
fer-de-lance ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/29 12:30 | |
Re:°êxx¥v±Ð¨| | |
Hey RA, good to see you in the thick of this debate. Here is my 2 cents worth ... In a democratic, free and pluralistic society, what goes into the educational curriculum (be it in the armed services or in schools) should be determined by the people and their elected representatives. If one political faction likes to promote its view of history, it would need to be reviewed and accepted by the officials elected by the people. If the elected officials really piss off the people with something outrageous, the people have recourse (ie. demanding accountability) through 1) demanding their representatives represent their views in the legislative debate 2) voting their representatives out of office at the next election or 3) challenge their policies in court. But for this to work, the people cannot be passive and not participate in the political process - otherwise what rights they have would be forfeited (- by default). This prinicple of checks and balances (separation of powers) is enshrined in the constitutions of many democratic countries - including the ROC. You know, that concept introduced to the Chinese by that Cantonese doctor with the Japanese nom-de-guerre of Nakayama - in his political manifesto written originally in English called ..... the ¡yThree People s Principle¡z. The pro-Japanese TIers should be allowed to state their views - and they should expect to be challenged through the polticial process. They have their rights to their views and others have their rights too. The people can decide which is good - honorable and better for the country. Frankly, I have a big problem with a political philosophy that is considered extreme even in Japan. A policy that promotes a world view endorsing pre-WWII Japanese expansionist policies. One that resulted in a devastating war and atrocities still remembered by many in S.E. Asia with hatred and disgust. Is that what the Taiwanese people want to be associated with? So, what is the alternative view? I think everyone would agree that the democratic process, constitutionally protected freedoms, rights - including the right to self-determination - is worth fighting for AND educating the troops about. As for the historical viewpoint? Try an objective, evidence-based one. Nationalistic, jingoistic, self-centered (ethnocentric) viewpoints are out of fashion in the rest of the (rational) world. Why would you want to substitute a narrow Japan- or island of Taiwan-centric view of history for a narrow KMT-centric view? Two wrongs do not make a right! Try a view that is consistent with the highest international standards, eg. Helsinki Accords on Human Rights, United Nations Charter and International Law including, yes, the War Crimes judgements after WWII establishing what constituted Crimes Against Humanity ... Just because the ChiCom isolated us from the international community, we should not isolate ourselves by not accepting these standards. Those who do not understand history is doomed to repeat it. Do we want to be like the Balkans, the Middle East or like the European Union? (Germans and French have fought each other since antiquity. Ever consider what they did different to avoid being like the Serbs and the Croatians?) |
®ÇÆ[ªÌ2 ¡@©ó¡@2004/02/29 19:34 | |
Re:°êxx¥v±Ð¨| | |
¤£ºÞ¬Oþ¤@°ê ¾ú¥vÁ`¬O·|¦]¬°¤£¦P®É¥Nªº¤£¦Pªº·NÃÑ«¬ºA ©Î¬O¨¤«×¤£¦P ¦Ó±o¨ì¤£¦Pªº¸ÑÄÀ ´N¹³¦Ñ½±¦b¹L¥h³Q¤¤°ê½|Ó¥b¦º ²{¦b¤S«·s¸àÄÀ ÁÙ¦³¹³¤G¤G¤K¨Ó¬Ý ¤£ºÞ²{¦³¤¤°ê ¹L¥h°ê¥ÁÄÒ ©M²{¦³¥Á¶iÄÒªº»¡ªk¦p¦ó ¦b¥¼¨Ó³£n¨ü¨ìªñ¤@¨Bªº¦ÒÅç ©M¤£¦P·NÃÑ«¬ºAªº¦±¸Ñ §Ú»{¬°¤µ¤Ñ°êxx¥v±Ð¨|ªº¥¿½T¤è°w |
cchs ¡@©ó¡@2004/03/07 22:59 | |
Re:°êxx¥v±Ð¨| | |
¤¤µØ¥Á°ê°êxx¥v¦b¥Á°ê¤¸¦~¦Ü¥Á°ê¤T¤Q¤K¦~ªº¾ú¥v¡A¦]¬°¬O¥H¤¤°ê°ê¥ÁÄÒ²©Rx¡BÄÒx¬°¤¤¤ß«ä·Q¨Ó°O¸ü¡A¥Á°ê¤T¤Q¤E¦~«á¨S¦³±µ¨ü²{¹ê¬D¾Ô¡A¨ì¥Á°ê¤»¤Q¦~¥¢¥h¤¤°ê¥DÅv¥Nªí©Ê«á¡A¤´µM¦b¥x¼êª÷°¨°Ï°ì·Ó¥»«Å¬ìÄé¿é¤U¡A´N³y¦¨°êx©x§L¾ú¥vÆ[ÄY«ªº¿ù¶Ã¡C ¬üxx¥v¦b¤º¾Ô¡]1861~65¡^«áªø¤[¥H¨Ó¤@ª½¥H¥_x«ä·Q¬°¥D¬y¡Aµ¥¨ì¸g¾ú¹L¨â¦¸¥@¬É¤j¾Ô¡BÁú¾Ô¡B¶V¾Ô¡B¬üĬ§N¾Ô«á¡A¤w¸gµo®i¥X¥H¤HÃþ¤å©ú¥Nªíªº¾ú¥vÆ[¡A³o¬O¬ü°ê¤Î¬üx±o¥H¦b1990¦~¥N¨´¤µ¦¨¬°¤HÃþ³Ì±j¶Õªº¤å©ú°ê®a¡C ¤¤µØ¥Á°ê°êxx¥vÀ³¸Ó¥H¥x¼êª÷°¨°Ï°ì¬°¥DÅé¨Ó°O¸ü¡Aº¥ý¥²»Ý¾ã¦X¥xÆW¤H¡B¼ê´ò¤H¡Bª÷ªù¤H¡B°¨¯ª¤H¤§¶¡®t²§«Ü¤jªº¾ú¥vÆ[¡C¤~¤£·|¾x¡y¤£ª¾¬°½Ö¦Ó¾Ô¡H¤£ª¾¬°¦ó¦Ó¾Ô¡H¡zªº°ê»Ú¤j¯º¸Ü¡C º¥ý§Ú¹Á¸Õ¥H¥xÆW¤H»ÔÄy¤½¥Á¨¤Àµoªí§Ú¹ï¤¤µØ¥Á°ê¥vªº»{ª¾¡A§Æ±æ¨ä¥L¤¤µØ¥Á°ê«ÈÄy¡Bì¦í¥ÁÄy¡B¤¤°ê¤j³°¦U¬ÙÄy¥xÆW¤H¤Î¼ê´ò¤H¡Bª÷ªù¤H¡B°¨¯ª¤Hºô¤Í¤]´£¥X¹ï¤¤µØ¥Á°ê¥vªº¾ú¥vÆ[¡C¦p¦¹¥i¥HÅý°êxx¥v§ä¨ì¥i¥H®Ä©¾¤Î¨Ìªþªº°ê®a¾ú¥vÆ[¡C ¥DÃD1¡J¥xÆW¤H¾ú¥vÆ[ªºªì¨B°Q½× ¦b¤¤°ê´Â¥N¥v¤W¡A»X¥j¤H¡Bº¡¤H¯à°÷¥H¤Ö¼Æ¥Á±Ú¥H¹èÀ»²³¡A¦¨¥\¤J¥D¤¤ì¤£¬O¨S¦³¹D²zªº°¸µM¡A·í¼Ú¬w¶i¤J¤j¯è®ü®É¥N¡]1492¦~ôÛ¥¬µo²{·s¤j³°«á¡^¡A«Ò°ê¤º³¡¦U¤ý°ê´X¦Ê¦~¤ºªº¬F¸gµ²ºc»Pª©¹Ï¥X²{ÀWÁcÅܰʮɡA©ú´Â¦b¾G©M®É´Áªºµo®i®ü¥~¬¡°Ê«o¨S¦³Åý¤¤°ê³vº¥Â૬¬°®üÅv«Ò°ê¡C ·í¬ü°ê¿W¥ß²©R»Pªk°ê¤j²©R«á¾Ô¤õ®u±²¼Ú¬w¡B¥_¬ü¬w®É¡Aº¡²M¤¤°ê¥¿¦Û§Ú³³¾K¦b±dº³²±¥@ªº°ê®õ¥Á¦w¡Aª½¨ì¾~¤ù¾Ôª§À~Ãaº¡²M²Îªv¶¥¼h¡K ·í¼sªF¤H®]¶h¥P¡]1866~1925¡^Ä~©Ó¤Ó¥¤Ñ°ê®É´Á¡]1850~64¡^ªº§ï²«ä·Q®É¡A¼Ú¬w¡B¥_¬ü¬w¦U«Ò°ê¡B¤ý°ê¤§¶¡¥¿¬°®ü¥~´Þ¥Á¦a§Q¯q¤¬¤£¬ÛÅý¡A¬ü°ê³´¤J¤º¾Ô®É´ÁµL·v¥LÅU¡A±ß²M70¦~¡]1840~1911¡^ªº¾ú¥v¡A»¡©úº¡¤H¦p¦ó·QºÉ¿ìªk¡B¥ÎºÉ¤ß¾÷¡B¤£¾Ü¤â¬qªº²×·¥¥Øªº¥u¬O¬°¤FÅý¬FÅv«ùÄò¤U¥h¡C ®ý¦¿¤H½±¤¶¥Û¡]1887~1975¡^¡B½±¸g°ê¡]1910~88¡^»P´ò«n¤H¤ò¿AªF¡]1893~1976¡^¡B¥|¤t¤H¾H¤p¥¡]1904~97¡^¬OµØ¤H¥@¬É®a³ë¤á¾åªº¬Fªv¤Hª«¡Aª½¨ì¤µ¤é¥v®a¹ï³o¥|¤H¤@¥Íªº®É¥N¥\¹L¤´µM²³»¡¯É¯Æ¡K ¥xÆW¤H±¹ï1895~1996¦~³o¤@¦Ê¦~ªñ²{¥N¥v¸Ó¦p¦ó¸àÄÀ¡H¦p¦ó¤F¸Ñ¤é¥»«Ò°ê¤Q¤¦~¾Ôª§¡]1931~45¡^¹ï¥xÆWªº¯u¥¿¼vÅT¡H¤¤µØ¥Á°ê¦û»â¥xÆW«á²Îªv¨´¤µ¡A¤¤µØ¥Á°ê¥v®a¤@ª½µLªk¦V¥xÆW¤H§¹¾ã¦a¸ÑÄÀ¡A¬L©M¤G¤Q¦~¬°¤°»òÅܦ¨¥Á°ê¤T¤Q¥|¦~ªº¨ÓÀs¥h¯ß¡A¤j³°¦a°Ï¦b¥Á°ê¤T¤Q¤E¦~¥H«á¬°¤°»òÂàÅܦ¨¤½¤¸1950¦~ªººÙ¸¹¡H¬°¤°»ò¤j³°¦a°Ï¬O¤¤µØ¥Á°êªº©T¦³Ã¦°ì¡A«o¬O¦@²£ÄҲΪvªº¤¤µØ¤H¥Á¦@©M°ê¡H¤é¥»¤H´Ût¥xÆW¤H«á¡A¤¤°ê¤H¬°¤°»òÁÙ¬OÄ~Äò´Ût¥xÆW¤H¡H ¤¤°ê§Ü¤é¾Ôª§¦³¥²n³Q¥xÆW¤H¤F¸Ñ¡A¦ý¬O»Ýn¯¸¦b¥Ø«e¥x¼êª÷°¨©Ò³Bªº¥ß³õ»PÆ[ÂI¡A¦b·í«eªºªF¨È§½¶ÕÅܤƤU«·s¸àÄÀ¡A©Î³\¥_¨Ê¸Ó¦Ò¼{¥h°£¬Fªv·NÃѧκAªº°«ª§¡Awhen PRC and ROC both become ¡§China¡¨, then Chinese can announce that Taiwanese were just one part of them! There will be peace between Taiwan Strait[ĵ§i¹L§A¡M¤Ö¨Ó¶K¤@¨Ç¬Fªv©Ê¦æ¾PªºªF¦è¡MOUT¡Mby ¶Ô°È²Õ], unfortunately, PRC insist She is ¡§China¡¨, and ROC become ¡§Taiwan¡¨ and be forced to declare ¡§Formosa¡¨ to protect her authority! There will be war between Taiwan Strait. Both Chinese and Taiwanese all hate war and both them all be not afraid of combat for their homeland and nation. 320Á`²Î¿ïÁ|µ²§ô«á¡A¤~¬O¦ÒÅç¥xÆW¤Hªº´¼¼z»P¯à¤Oªº¶}©l¡K ·Q«Ø¥ß¤@ÓÃþ¦üÁú°ê¡B¤é¥»¡B·s¥[©Y¡Bµá«ß»«¡B°¨¨Ó¦è¨È¡B¦L¥§¡B®õ°êµ¥¥Á±Ú°ê®aªº¥xÆW¤H¡A¸Ó»{¯u¦a«ÈÆ[¦a«ä¦Ò¦p¦ó«Ø¥ß®Ä©¾°ê®aªºx¤O¡H¦b¨S¦³Ã©TªºªZ¤O°ò¦®É¡A¤¤µØ¥Á°ê°êx¦b1912~92¦~¾Ä¾Ô¤£¾Óªº¾ú¥v¡A¬O«ÜȱoÉÃ誺«e¨®¤§Å²¡A°ê¥ÁÄÒ¦b¤j³°®É´Á¬F¸g¼h±ªº¥þ±¥¢±Ñ¡A¤£¯à±N¬Fªv¬O«D¥[¦b·í¦~¨º¨Ç¾Ô¦º¡B®î°ê¡B®î¾¡B®îÃøªº^ÆF¨¤W¡A¤£ºÞ¥L¡]¦o¡^¬O¨º¸Ì¤H¡H¨ºÓ°êÄy¡H°ê¥ÁÄÒ¦b¥xÆW®É´Á¦g©]ê¾Óªº¾ãx¸gªZ¡A¤]¤£¯à±N¬Fªv¬O«D¥[¦b·í¦~¨º¨Ç¾Ô¦º¡B®î°ê¡B®î¾¡B®îÃøªº^ÆF¨¤W¡A¤£ºÞ¥L¡]¦o¡^¬O¨º¸Ì¤H¡H §ÚÌn«ÈÆ[¤½¥¿¦aµû½×¤¤µØ¥Á°ê½±¤¶¥Û¡B½±¸g°ê¡B§õµn½÷¡B³¯¤ô«ó³o¥|¦ì¤¸ºªº®É¥N¥\¹L¡Aµûij¨äªv°ê±o¥¢¡B¨Mµ¦±o¥¢¡A¨ä¥LÃö©ó°ê®a»â¾É¤HÓ¤H®¦«è¡B®a±Ú±¡¤³¡B¬Fªv®¦«èªº§å§P¡AÀ³¸Ó»EµJ¦b³o¨Ç¼vÅT»â¾É¤H³ß«ã«s¼Öªº±¡¹ÒÅܯÀ¡A¬O§_³y¦¨¨ä¦b¦ì®É´ÁÄY«ªº¨Mµ¦¿ù»~ªº¾É¤õ½u¡H°_¦]¡H x¨Æ»â¾É¤H¡]°ê¨¾³¡ªø¡B°Ñ¿ÑÁ`ªø¡^ªº«Øx³Æ¾Ô²z©À»P¨Mµ¦¨ã¦³¤£¨ü¤zÂZªº¿W¥ß©Ê¡A¬Fªv»â¾É¤H¡]Á`²Î¡B¦æ¬F°|ªø¡^À³¸Ó¥R¤À¤F¸Ñx¨Æ»â¾É¤Hªº²z©À¡A¤~¯àÁ×§K¬Fx¼h±¥X²{¬F»Ö¡]¬FÄÒ¶Õ¤O¡^»Px»Ö¡]xºØ¥»¦ì¥D¸q¡^¤§¶¡ªºÅv¤O¶Éªî¡K ¡]«ÝÄò¡^ |
®eŲ¥ú ¡@©ó¡@2004/05/13 10:33 | |
Re:°êxx¥v±Ð¨| | |
ÁÂÁ CCHS °Ñ¤Þ©å§@ ªø¨F¤T¦¸·|¾Ô Tel:886-2-26602343 ®eŲ¥ú |