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Janes Defence Weekly
August 6, 2003

Syria Upgrades T-72 Tanks

By Alon Ben-David, JDW Correspondent, Tel Aviv

The Syrian Armed Forces are upgrading a brigade of T-72 main battle tanks (MBTs) and have acquired some 1500 Kornet-E anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs), intelligence sources in the region have told Janes Defence Weekly.

Syria signed in 1998 a contract with Galileo Avionica of Italy - a wholly owned subsidiary of Finmeccanica - to upgrade 122 T-72 MBTs. The estimated value of the contract is some $200 million.

The upgrade includes installing Galileos Tank Universal Reconfiguration Modular System T-series tank (TURMS-T) fire-control system (FCS).TURMS-T is a modular third-generation computerised day/ thermal FCS especially developed for the fire-control modernisation/ upgrade of Russian-originated T-family tanks.

The system includes gunners and commanders stabilised sights (both with second-generation infra-red cameras) and a new turret-management computer and set of sensors, so that the gun stabilisation and accuracy is improved to the level of latest-generation tanks, even in move-to-move firing.

The upgrade includes installing new armour and an attachment for the Russian KBP Instrument Design Bureau 9K119 Reflecks (AT-11) ATGM, which is fired through the T-72s 125mm smoothbore main gun. The armour and missile attachment are supplied by undisclosed subcontractors to Galileo. The upgrade programme began last year, with all of the systems now delivered to Syria. Installation of the systems is being conducted in-country, with about half of the T-72s modernised to date.

A Finmeccanica spokesperson declined to comment on any details regarding the Syrian upgrade.

Earlier integration of the TURMS-T FCS into the turret of the upgraded Czech T-72CZ M3/M4 met with problems during the initial stages of the programme, principally due to the cramped nature of the turret. These difficulties have since been resolved.

I t is understood that the rate of delivery to the Syrian Army is currently 10-12 upgraded MBTs per month. These will primarily be used to equip the Syrian Armys 105 Brigade, known as The Presidential Brigade, which is stationed outside Damascus.

Syria cannot afford the acquisition of new platforms for its armed forces, a senior Israeli intelligence source told JDW. Therefore the Syrians are investing to improve their existing inventory of main battle tanks, as well as purchasing ATGMs.

During the US-led Operation Iraqi Freedom US officials accused Damascus of supplying Baghdad with Russian-made Kornet-E ATGMs, thereby not complying with the UN embargo on Iraq (JDW 16 April). The claims were based on intelligence reports on a shipment of 500 ATGMs purchased in Russia that arrived in Syria in November last year and were forwarded on to Iraq.

Washington subsequently claimed that some of those missiles were used against coalition forces in Iraq. However, regional intelligence sources told JDW that as it appears now, most of those missiles were purchased for the Syrian army and remained in Syria. They were part of the 1,500-missile deal, which included 50 Kornet-E launchers.


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Trilateral discussions to commence on smoothbore upgrade for Challenger tank

Discussions were due to begin in mid-July between Jordanian, Omani, and UK delegations on the possible establishment of a trilateral program to upgun British-made Challenger tanks with a 120mm smoothbore gun.

The Jordanian Army operates a 288-strong fleet of ex-British Army Challenger 1 tanks (soon to be increased by a further 100 vehicles), armed with the L11 medium-pressure 120mm rifled gun. The British and Omani armies both operate the Challenger 2 tank (386 and 38 respectively) which differs in having the L30, a high-pressure 120mm rifled gun.

No direct successor is available for the primary kinetic energy (KE) round for the L11 gun, this being the obsolete L23 tungsten KE projectile which has been out of production for a decade. It is insufficiently lethal, and its shelf-life cannot be further extended. Similarly the time remaining in which the L27 depleted uranium KE round for the L30 gun will be able to penetrate prospective armored targets at an acceptable range is rapidly diminishing. The secondary ammunition natures (HESH/Smoke) common to both the L11 and L30 are not compliant with insensitivity requirements and will also run out of shelf life before the end of the decade.

It is the UK MoDs intention to retain a heavy force component, including an appropriately improved Challenger 2, in service alongside the medium-weight Future Rapid Effects System (FRES), at least until 2025. Recent analyses show that for the British Army the changeover to a smoothbore gun will more than pay for itself in terms of money saved on continued development and acquisition of 120mm rifled guns and ammunition, in which no other nations are investing.

The prospect of concerting their actions with the British and Omanis raises a number of issues for the Jordanians. The Challenger 1 happens to be the chosen initial test platform for Jordans flagship Falcon II/III two-man 120mm smoothbore turret project, currently under development by the King Abdullah II Design and Development Bureau (KADDB). The British Army is not looking to turn its Challenger 2s into three-man (as opposed to four-man) tanks, and the Jordanian user community is similarly understood to have reservations over two-man turret crewing, although some user trials with the Falcon II demonstrator in Jordan later this year may provide some answers.

The Falcon turret is not platform-specific, but for the Jordanian Army to commit to an alternative re-gunning solution that retains the current turret would obviously remove a readily realizable outlet for this advanced indigenous low-profile turret concept.

Another possible salvation could be the FRES program, which is thought likely to include a 120mm smoothbore-armed variant. A lighter version of KADDBs Falcon could be a candidate for this, though Alvis Vickers sister company Alvis Hägglunds is not likely to refrain from further pressing the case for its own CV90120 fire support vehicle.


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NO:119_6
Agent Toganator ¡@©ó¡@2003/08/15 03:00
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«X°ê¢Ð¢Û-12...........10¯Å, 1968¦~¦¨­x, T-64 and T-72

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«X°ê¢Ð¢Û-9.............8¯Å, 1964¦~¦¨­x, T-64 and T-72


NO:119_7
Agent Toganator ¡@©ó¡@2003/08/15 03:33
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NO:119_8
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NO:119_9
Agent Toganator ¡@©ó¡@2003/08/16 02:28
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NO:119_10
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NO:119_11
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NO:119_12
Agent Toganator ¡@©ó¡@2003/09/02 11:37
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NO:119_13
Pikachuu ¡@©ó¡@2003/09/02 11:44
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NO:119_14
HOTARU ¡@©ó¡@2003/09/02 14:48
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Agent Toganator ¡@©ó¡@2003/09/15 12:19
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NO:119_16
Bcl-2 ¡@©ó¡@2003/09/15 12:51
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NO:119_17
VOR ¡@©ó¡@2003/10/23 07:21
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InsideDefense.com
October 6, 2003

DSCA: Egypt Wants To Coproduce $920 Million Worth Of M1A1 Tanks, Equipment

Egypt has asked to continue its coproduction of M1A1 Abrams tanks, the
Defense Security Cooperation Agency said late last week.

The proposed deal would cover 125 M1A1 kits and other equipment for a total
estimated cost of $920 million, according to the agency, which informed
Congress of the request Oct. 3.

Egypt is demilitarizing its Soviet fleet, the DSCA announcement reads.
The proposed sale will increase the quantity of the Abrams tank
coproduction program, begun in 1988, from the current level of 755 tanks to
880.

Egypt has been coproducing M1A1s in Egypt since the late 1990s under a
military assistance deal rooted in the 1979 Camp David Accords. The initial
tank coproduction arrangement covered more than 500 tanks, which were
assembled at a facility in Egypt known as Factory 200. Egypt built the tank
facility with U.S. assistance.

General Dynamics Land Systems, the prime contractor for M1 tanks, builds
many of the components in the United States, then ships the kitsto Factory
200, where they are combined with other components to make M1A1s.

In March 1999, while in Egypt, then-Defense Secretary William Cohen said
the United States and Egypt had agreed on an additional 200-tank
coproduction deal, which began with 100 tanks that year. In late July 2001,
Egypt asked to coproduce an additional 100 tanks. Production of that
increment should be completed by the fourth quarter of 2006, according to a
GD official.

Also included in the proposed sale are M256 armament systems, M2 .50
caliber machine guns, M204 7.62 millimeter machine guns as well as other
equipment, according to the DSCA announcement.

No offset arrangements have been included with the deal, the agency said.

--John Liang


NO:119_18
VOR ¡@©ó¡@2003/10/26 11:28
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http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/news/idr/idr031021_1_n.shtml

Challenger 2 smoothbore technology demonstrator contract expected

Plans are shortly expected to be announced for a £3 million-plus technology demonstrator programme (TDP) for the proposed re-equipment of the British Armys Challenger 2 tank fleet with a 120mm smoothbore gun.

As the Challenger 2s original equipment manufacturer, Alvis Vickers Ltd (AVL) is expected to have a role in this pilot scheme, designed to explore the impact of reconfiguring the existing Challenger 2 turret to accommodate the new gun and re-modeling the stowage arrangements in the turret and hull for its associated one-piece ammunition. However, it is understood that overall responsibility is likely be vested in BAE Systems RO Defence (ROD).

Besides Alvis Vickers, ROD is expected to collaborate with Rheinmetall in the execution of the TDP. The UK MoD has no publicly preferred option for the gun supplier, but ROD has already embarked on a strategic relationship with the German company, which is fulfilling on its behalf key parts of the MoDs annual ammunition production requirement. The expectation therefore is that the demonstrator will be fitted with a version of Rheinmetalls L55 smoothbore gun.

One of the stated attractions of the smoothbore gun for the British Army is the off-the-shelf availability of high-performance tungsten-penetrator kinetic-energy (KE) rounds such as Rheinmetalls DM53. As it stands, the DM53 is not qualified for use in the more extreme (A1) climatic conditions found in the Middle East, and there may therefore be a case for the collaborative development between Rheinmetall and ROD of a new IM (insensitive munitions)-compliant KE round, suitable for worldwide deployment.

Overtly, ROD has abdicated from the tank projectile- and charge-system manufacturing field as a result of the recent closures of its Bishopton propellant and ROSM penetrator production facilities. Nonetheless, according to Peter Haysman from the companys research department, there are a number of proprietary ROD tank ammunition technologies available for insertion.

Meanwhile in August 2003 the Jordanian King Abdullah II Design and Development Bureau made a surprise announcement that it is pressing ahead with development and testing of an upgunned version of the Challenger 1 turret. Dubbed the Hybrid Turret, it is portrayed as an interim firepower fix for the Jordan Armed Forces Al Hussein tank fleet, pending development and delivery of the definitive Falcon III low-profile turret design. In common with the latter, the Hybrid Turret features a RUAG 120CTG L50 120mm smoothbore gun, but this is accommodated in the existing internal mantlet of the Challenger 1 turret.


NO:119_19
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NO:119_20
Agent Toganator ¡@©ó¡@2003/11/03 14:52
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